Subframe mounting

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Nashy48
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Subframe mounting

Post by Nashy48 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:55 am

Hi all does anyone have a Front subframe mounting its the one on the gearbox side

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Alan 480 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:32 pm

sub frame to car or gearbox to sub frame?

they are still available from suppliers ,

REAR gearbox mount is NLA , regardless of what any web page says!
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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by jamescarruthers » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:18 pm

1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red
1992 Renault Master Mk. 1. Machzone Chateau camper. 2.0 LPG

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Nashy48 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:26 am

It’s subframe to gearbox it’s not perished can it be repaired with strong glue

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:38 am

Is it round or horseshoe shaped?
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red
1992 Renault Master Mk. 1. Machzone Chateau camper. 2.0 LPG

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Nashy48 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:46 am

Round and a flat piece of steel 2 bolts secure it to subframe

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:44 am

This is oil filled and very difficult to get hold of. Do your homework on here with search. I'd recommend getting one second hand from a late 440/460 that is being scrapped. You won't get a new one as far as we know here
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red
1992 Renault Master Mk. 1. Machzone Chateau camper. 2.0 LPG

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Alan 480 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:53 pm

jamescarruthers wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:44 am
This is oil filled and very difficult to get hold of. Do your homework on here with search. I'd recommend getting one second hand from a late 440/460 that is being scrapped. You won't get a new one as far as we know here
yep NLA as far as we can establish :-(

really need to find an alternative, either see previous thread(s), here

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35556&p=215088&hilit=frame#p215088
Alan

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:13 pm

Wait, you say it is a gearbox mount‎? As in one of the two at the front of the car?
 
If so, you can buy these from Poland. I would recommend replacing two at the front as a pair as these replacements are stiffer.‎

The front two ARE AVAILABLE: ‎http://www.ebay.pl/itm/372489522475

There are two rear ones, only the earlier horseshoe shape one is available. ‎
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red
1992 Renault Master Mk. 1. Machzone Chateau camper. 2.0 LPG

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Nashy48 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:23 pm

Yes think it’s the one filled with oil must of already been leaked out before I dropped the subframe

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:49 pm

I had a front one rip. Replaced and it drives lovely now!
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red
1992 Renault Master Mk. 1. Machzone Chateau camper. 2.0 LPG

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Nashy48 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:45 pm

293must of been a horrible drive with worn clutch and this mounting gone

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Alan 480 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:48 pm

Nashy48 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:46 am
Round and a flat piece of steel 2 bolts secure it to subframe
this threw me as I thought 'flat steel with two bolts' referred to the both bolts were at the SAME end :wink:

although why this would refer to front mount was my mis-reading it.

but anyway, if you do find the REAR mount do let us know :-) I don't think ther eis any oil in the front one, I have a damaged one here with a missing captive bolt, scrap-yard chopped the bolt off with grinder . .. . .
Alan

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Gmac34 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:29 am

Alan 480 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:53 pm
jamescarruthers wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:44 am
This is oil filled and very difficult to get hold of. Do your homework on here with search. I'd recommend getting one second hand from a late 440/460 that is being scrapped. You won't get a new one as far as we know here
yep NLA as far as we can establish :-(

really need to find an alternative, either see previous thread(s), here

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35556&p=215088&hilit=frame#p215088
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=35602&p=214644#p214644
Still, have to try these, but if you are brave enough it might be an alternative...

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Alan 480 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:14 pm

looks to be 25mm too much in height, and you could ADD depth to bring up to correct dims, but not really take it away, unless the height listed is INCLUDING the threaded section? the gap beteeen the bolts could be 'adjusted'?

needs a trip to a dealer or motor factor to check REAL sizes, not those from 'tinternet' ?
Alan

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Gmac34 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:01 pm

Alan 480 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:14 pm
looks to be 25mm too much in height, and you could ADD depth to bring up to correct dims, but not really take it away, unless the height listed is INCLUDING the threaded section? the gap beteeen the bolts could be 'adjusted'?

needs a trip to a dealer or motor factor to check REAL sizes, not those from 'tinternet' ?
On my current 480 I have the other style gearbox mounts so I will not experiment with this one. Still, you can get one for 30€ so... I think it would be worth to experiment whit it, or at least that Is what I would do if I needed one on my car. The total height should be the same as the Volvo one, the measure should include the threaded part. The measurements of the Volvo https://www.drive2.ru/l/7525464/
The gap between the bolts could indeed be 'adjusted', but I would bet that it's very close.
Cheers

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Re: Subframe mounting

Post by Alan 480 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:48 am

Gmac34 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:01 pm
Alan 480 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:14 pm
looks to be 25mm too much in height, and you could ADD depth to bring up to correct dims, but not really take it away, unless the height listed is INCLUDING the threaded section? the gap beteeen the bolts could be 'adjusted'?

needs a trip to a dealer or motor factor to check REAL sizes, not those from 'tinternet' ?
On my current 480 I have the other style gearbox mounts so I will not experiment with this one. Still, you can get one for 30€ so... I think it would be worth to experiment whit it, or at least that Is what I would do if I needed one on my car. The total height should be the same as the Volvo one, the measure should include the threaded part. The measurements of the Volvo https://www.drive2.ru/l/7525464/
The gap between the bolts could indeed be 'adjusted', but I would bet that it's very close.
Cheers
yep worth a punt if needed a replacement, mines is 'OK' for now. . . . . . but will investigate should the need arise :wink:

i do need some other parts from motor factors so if in I'll ask if they happen to have said item :-)
Alan

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