No more original spark plugs

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No more original spark plugs

Post by gsa60 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:34 pm

Hi everyone,
Volvo has stopped producing the spark plugs for the turbo model. In my case a 91 b18ftm (no cat)
I always purchased original ones since in the past I had many issues due to non-original spark plugs. For instance i had some issues with some bosch ones.
So does anyone know good ones that you've been using without issues?
Thanks

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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by jamescarruthers » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:34 am

NGK are good for us and I think the originals were rebranded Champion. You are right about Bosch, although I hadn't experienced it myself‎, I've read on here that the turbo engine doesn't like their Super 4 ones-- you'd probably get away with their older style single end offering. 
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 convertible
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by Ortovox77 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:41 pm

In my old Haynes service book NGK-BPR6ES was recommended so I used them on my old 1990 Turbo (cat) for many years.
Also tested NGK-BPR7ES that can handle more heat since I ran with 0,75bar turbo boost but went back to NGK-BPR6ES since I felt they ran little smother and I never had any problems on the higher boost.

I also tested Beru and Bosch with multi electrodes but were never really satisfied with them.
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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by jamescarruthers » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:51 am

If you want a new, genuine set, this guy in NL has them for sale.

https://www.volvo340onderdelen.nl/en/sp ... volvo.html

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1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 convertible
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by brinkie » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:09 am

40 euro for a set of spark plugs someone found at the bottom of a forgotten shelf?? @%#!(*!@(%$# <insert Dutch swear word here, usually a disease> :angry:

Let's do some research, because Volvo isn't producing spark plugs by themselves, they order at large manufacturers who stamp "Volvo" on them. So if we can find out who made them, we're sorted.

A clue is "made in Mexico". There is, or used to be, only one spark plug manufacturer in that country: Champion.
Champion recommends the RN7YC spark plug for the Volvo 480, and this range is called "Copper Plus". Double Plus, Copper Plus... that sounds quite similar. They look different, though!

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Found cheap here, though outside the UK you'd find the postage a bit hefty: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/champion-spa ... 3276803536

An alternative is NGK BPR7ES. Though for the 1.7 N/A engines I would think the BPR6ES runs better.

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They are sold at many outlets, for instance https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-NGK-Coppe ... 2728167575
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Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Vase Green, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum Mystic Silver
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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by Alan 480 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:24 pm

For my tuppence

I've used NGK with no issues, the image of the 'VOLVO' plugs seems to sugget that 'one size fits all ' :wink:

well from 86 onwards . .. .. .. ( so pretty much all ) :D
Alan

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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by brinkie » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:53 am

And let's not forget the original spark plugs were designed in the 1980s, we've moved on more than 30 years now. :)
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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:08 am

Volvo also sold two types of plugs with the B20F being suitable for both it seems.‎

‎3344773-8 for B18F, EP, FP & B20F
3344899-‎4 for B18E, ED, ES, Turbo, B20F
(3270506 used to be for the B18F, EP & FP and  but was superceded by ‎3344773-8)

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This doesn't necessarily tie up with the aftermarket manufacturers data:‎

NGK (data from the UK website):
BPR7ES: B18FT Turbo, B20F, B18ED, B18E, 
ZGR5B: B18FP, B18F‎

NGK (data from catalogue):
BPR7ES: B18FT ‎, B20F (0.8 gap)
ZGR5B: B18FP (0.7 gap)

Champion:‎
‎Catalogue: https://www.championautoparts.eu/conten ... alogue.pdf
‎RN9YC: B18F (0.9mm gap) [NGK equivalent: BPR6ES]
RN9LCC: B18EP, B20F‎ (1.0mm gap) [NGK equivalent: ZGR5B]
RN7YC‎: B18E, B18FT (0.9mm gap) [NGK equivalent: BPR7ES]

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‎I'm sure the NGK data used to be different! After doing a bit more research, I will probably change to Champion now as they list all of our engines separately while the NGK website misses some off.‎

The above is quite confusing, the B20F Champion plug is RN9LCC... the NGK equivalent (determined from their catalogue) is ZGR5B... the opposite plug to what NGK recommend directly for the same engine!‎
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 convertible
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:22 am

Volvo also sold two types of plugs with the B20F being suitable for both it seems.‎

‎3344773-8 for B18F, EP, FP & B20F
3344899-‎4 for B18E, ED, ES, Turbo, B20F
(3270506 used to be for the B18F, EP & FP and  but was superceded by ‎3344773-8)

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This doesn't necessarily tie up with the aftermarket manufacturers data:‎

NGK (data from the UK website):
BPR7ES: B18FT Turbo, B20F, B18ED, B18E, 
ZGR5B: B18FP, B18F‎

NGK (data from catalogue):
https://www.ngkntk.com/service/downloads/#Catalogs‎
BPR7ES: B18FT ‎, B20F (0.8 gap)
ZGR5B: B18FP (0.7 gap)

Champion:‎
‎Catalogue: https://www.championautoparts.eu/conten ... alogue.pdf
‎RN9YC: B18F (0.9mm gap) [NGK equivalent: BPR6ES]
RN9LCC: B18EP, B20F‎ (1.0mm gap) [NGK equivalent: ZGR5B]
RN7YC‎: B18E, B18FT (0.9mm gap) [NGK equivalent: BPR7ES]

Imageslaine pronunciation

‎I'm sure the NGK data used to be different! After doing a bit more research, I will probably change to Champion now as they list all of our engines separately while the NGK website misses some off.‎

The above is quite confusing, the B20F Champion plug is RN9LCC... the NGK equivalent (determined from their catalogue) is ZGR5B... the opposite plug to what NGK recommend directly for the same engine!‎
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 convertible
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: No more original spark plugs

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:44 am

But as Mssr. Brink says, technology has moved on and that probably explains why Champion recommend the OE195 irridium to replace the plugs in all 480 exgines except the B18EP‎.‎

My understanding is that these Irridium and Platinum‎ plugs aren't really any better they just last longer in order to satisfy manufacturer's desire for incredibly long service intervals-- which we don't have. I am quite happy to put a set of new plugs in the car every year.
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 convertible
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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