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- Murf
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Welcome!
Just to contradict Sopie, ive had no probs at all with the 3 early turbos ive had and some large problems with the later 480's ive owned!
It all depends on luck and how the cars been treated, use common sense when buying and dont buy a ropey one!
My mates got a williams clio, its nice but i think a chipped 480 turbo would have it in a straight line
Here it is:
PS, i HATE french cars!!
Just to contradict Sopie, ive had no probs at all with the 3 early turbos ive had and some large problems with the later 480's ive owned!
It all depends on luck and how the cars been treated, use common sense when buying and dont buy a ropey one!
My mates got a williams clio, its nice but i think a chipped 480 turbo would have it in a straight line
Here it is:
PS, i HATE french cars!!
Kia Pro'ceed GT 1.6 Turbo
1992 480 Turbo
2007 Focus ST
1992 480 Turbo
2007 Focus ST
Welcome MiniHaHa Good luck with finding your new ride
'95 Storm Grey 323 Manual Turbo, Richmod
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'95 Flame Red Celeb, Nos.191, 2 litre, LPG, used to be Adams ;) SOLD
'95 Vase Green Turbo~ Vanessa~ 'Serendipity' manual, Richmod. RIP
'90 Light Blue 480 Turbo auto....RIP
'68 VW Type 3 1.6 auto Lotus White,Swedish import. SOLD
Audi 80 coupe Gold...pimp my ride! RIP
'76 Bug, Ocean Blue, lowered, Empi wheels.RIP
'72 Bay window VW Camper 1600 twinport. Sold
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'95 Flame Red Celeb, Nos.191, 2 litre, LPG, used to be Adams ;) SOLD
'95 Vase Green Turbo~ Vanessa~ 'Serendipity' manual, Richmod. RIP
'90 Light Blue 480 Turbo auto....RIP
'68 VW Type 3 1.6 auto Lotus White,Swedish import. SOLD
Audi 80 coupe Gold...pimp my ride! RIP
'76 Bug, Ocean Blue, lowered, Empi wheels.RIP
'72 Bay window VW Camper 1600 twinport. Sold
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I only said that because that's the general opinion here. My 88' is fantastic, 2 of the later ones I had, or at least one of them, was a pile of ****. I wouldn't swap my "granny" for any other 480.Murf wrote:Welcome!
Just to contradict Sopie, ive had no probs at all with the 3 early turbos ive had and some large problems with the later 480's ive owned!
It all depends on luck and how the cars been treated, use common sense when buying and dont buy a ropey one!
As for french cars, after 3 205 GTi's, 1.6 115, 1.9 130, 1.9 rally car, a Renault 5 GTT, an AX, and borrowed AX Sport (weber carbs, not solex, great fun), I'm not too impressed...
480 Turbo > 1989 Graphite Grey
MR2 MK1 > 1989...
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MR2 MK1 > 1989...
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- chris1roll
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That the newer cars are better is a myth. The newer ones, if anything seem to rust quicker!
E.g. my car,a 1989 F reg, for the past year it has been a bit of a swine, lots of random problems, but at the moment I have it down to just no high beams, no heated seats and a HUGE crack in the windscreen that I don't have insurance for. However, Its only just started showing rust on the arches, and the bottom of the doors - to a degree that in your typical e-bay listing it would still be declared as rust free. But I know its there....... and for the first four years of ownership it was absolutely brilliant reliability wise.
Hopefully this year, now the house is up together I can spend some time and effort on it getting it all back up to scratch again.
Oh, and having owned all the engine variants, including both the different 1.7 N/A's I would still go for the turbo every single time. I particularly dislike the 2.0 for its godawful tappet noise!
So, in short - choose the engine you want, don't worry at all about how old it is, just make sure there is NO rust on it - (trust me, it is ALWAYS worse than it looks, paint and underseal hide ever such a lot - never trust the ads or the sellers that say the only rust is just the size of a ten pence piece and "nothing to worry about"- yeah and once you've ground out all the rust your left with a hole the size of a ten pound note!), and that everything works - at least that way you can fix stuff as it breaks rather than starting with a car that you'll get fed up with before you experience what it can be like!
You may have to wait and be prepared to travel lfor the right one - there are still some out there.
Ah, just noticed you own a real mini - well, you don't need me to tell you about the powers of rust then.......
Welcome, BTW
Chris
E.g. my car,a 1989 F reg, for the past year it has been a bit of a swine, lots of random problems, but at the moment I have it down to just no high beams, no heated seats and a HUGE crack in the windscreen that I don't have insurance for. However, Its only just started showing rust on the arches, and the bottom of the doors - to a degree that in your typical e-bay listing it would still be declared as rust free. But I know its there....... and for the first four years of ownership it was absolutely brilliant reliability wise.
Hopefully this year, now the house is up together I can spend some time and effort on it getting it all back up to scratch again.
Oh, and having owned all the engine variants, including both the different 1.7 N/A's I would still go for the turbo every single time. I particularly dislike the 2.0 for its godawful tappet noise!
So, in short - choose the engine you want, don't worry at all about how old it is, just make sure there is NO rust on it - (trust me, it is ALWAYS worse than it looks, paint and underseal hide ever such a lot - never trust the ads or the sellers that say the only rust is just the size of a ten pence piece and "nothing to worry about"- yeah and once you've ground out all the rust your left with a hole the size of a ten pound note!), and that everything works - at least that way you can fix stuff as it breaks rather than starting with a car that you'll get fed up with before you experience what it can be like!
You may have to wait and be prepared to travel lfor the right one - there are still some out there.
Ah, just noticed you own a real mini - well, you don't need me to tell you about the powers of rust then.......
Welcome, BTW
Chris
2001 V70 XC 2.5T
1989 744 GL Auto
1989 744 GL Auto
- Dan the 480 Man
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The whole arch thing can be very decieving, as i found out at the beginning of last year. From the outside, it was fine...
But i unearthed a little a little bit of rust, and what started off as (to quote Chris) 'a piece the size of a 10p', a little poking around led it to this...
...and in turn, led to this (pic taken from inside the rear arch):
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Mine was a '93 Turbo, but my Dad's is a '91 Turbo, and bodywise, his was far better. The whole car felt better to be honest-but this is an age old discussion! Fortunately, my arches were repaired, but as you can see, it was in pretty bad shape!
So if you go to have a butchers, make sure you poke around the arches (but not too hard!).
But i unearthed a little a little bit of rust, and what started off as (to quote Chris) 'a piece the size of a 10p', a little poking around led it to this...
...and in turn, led to this (pic taken from inside the rear arch):
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Mine was a '93 Turbo, but my Dad's is a '91 Turbo, and bodywise, his was far better. The whole car felt better to be honest-but this is an age old discussion! Fortunately, my arches were repaired, but as you can see, it was in pretty bad shape!
So if you go to have a butchers, make sure you poke around the arches (but not too hard!).
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............or, you could buy a rotton 480 turbo (theres loads of them), pull the engine out and put it in a renault 5!!!
Then spank all ya mates in thier expensive cars.
steve
Then spank all ya mates in thier expensive cars.
steve
Renault 5, 1.7 volvo turbo engine, turbo technics turbo, lowered on koni, scorpion stainless exhaust, samco and stainless pipework, front mount intercooler, about 170 bhp.....more to come!
- JohnTurbo
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You don't need a car to spank your mates, merely a whip!Rapid-R5 wrote:............or, you could buy a rotton 480 turbo (theres loads of them), pull the engine out and put it in a renault 5!!!
Then spank all ya mates in thier expensive cars.
steve
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- VanDerGraaf
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John is right- surely the bedroom is the right place for that (more space)?Rapid-R5 wrote:Then spank all ya mates in thier expensive cars.
Erm, Hi Jaine, since you like cars with a bit of go, get a 480 Turbo, chip it, and run that around- lots of fun and as Murf says probably a bit quicker than the Williams for outright speed! If found mine to be quite economical when driven carefully.
Welcome to this rotting steel ark of life's waifs and strays that we call the 480 Club Europe!
Rohan
08 Renault Laguna III Sport Tourer 2.0T 4 wheel steering madness
00 Citroën XM ES9 V6 incredible
Previously:
00 W210 Mercedes E430 V8 estate LPG .....wünderbar!
00 W210 Mercedes E320cdi estate dead, eaten alive
95 Citroën XM 2.5 TD estate dead
95 Citroën XM 2.1 TD stolen/dead
'97 Saab 9000 Aero gone
Vase Green '94 Twin Pipe 480 Turbo
"Scar", Vase Green '94 Turbo dead
"Green Goblin" '93 Turbo Auto PITA, dead
Grey '88 ES dead
Steel Grey '93 480 Turbo sold and believed dead
00 Citroën XM ES9 V6 incredible
Previously:
00 W210 Mercedes E430 V8 estate LPG .....wünderbar!
00 W210 Mercedes E320cdi estate dead, eaten alive
95 Citroën XM 2.5 TD estate dead
95 Citroën XM 2.1 TD stolen/dead
'97 Saab 9000 Aero gone
Vase Green '94 Twin Pipe 480 Turbo
"Scar", Vase Green '94 Turbo dead
"Green Goblin" '93 Turbo Auto PITA, dead
Grey '88 ES dead
Steel Grey '93 480 Turbo sold and believed dead
- VanDerGraaf
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John, you were far too forthcoming there.JohnTurbo wrote:You don't need a car to spank your mates, merely a whip!Rapid-R5 wrote:............or, you could buy a rotton 480 turbo (theres loads of them), pull the engine out and put it in a renault 5!!!
Then spank all ya mates in thier expensive cars.
steve
And why have I been left out? Too far away?
08 Renault Laguna III Sport Tourer 2.0T 4 wheel steering madness
00 Citroën XM ES9 V6 incredible
Previously:
00 W210 Mercedes E430 V8 estate LPG .....wünderbar!
00 W210 Mercedes E320cdi estate dead, eaten alive
95 Citroën XM 2.5 TD estate dead
95 Citroën XM 2.1 TD stolen/dead
'97 Saab 9000 Aero gone
Vase Green '94 Twin Pipe 480 Turbo
"Scar", Vase Green '94 Turbo dead
"Green Goblin" '93 Turbo Auto PITA, dead
Grey '88 ES dead
Steel Grey '93 480 Turbo sold and believed dead
00 Citroën XM ES9 V6 incredible
Previously:
00 W210 Mercedes E430 V8 estate LPG .....wünderbar!
00 W210 Mercedes E320cdi estate dead, eaten alive
95 Citroën XM 2.5 TD estate dead
95 Citroën XM 2.1 TD stolen/dead
'97 Saab 9000 Aero gone
Vase Green '94 Twin Pipe 480 Turbo
"Scar", Vase Green '94 Turbo dead
"Green Goblin" '93 Turbo Auto PITA, dead
Grey '88 ES dead
Steel Grey '93 480 Turbo sold and believed dead
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Nice to see another thread getting totally out of hand. just to add my twopennies worth .i've got a bog standard 480S and on my runs between Banbury and Oswestry I get 42.8 mpg and it's quick enough in it's standard form. I've got a Camaro if i want to go fast
1995 Celebration 332
Well that one on ebay went for £800 so it did get good money. Wait till I sell the Mini then have a look around, the choice is still between a 480 or a Pulsar gt-i. ooh yes please.
hope it is ok to stay now even if I am not a 480 owner (yet).
Jaine x
hope it is ok to stay now even if I am not a 480 owner (yet).
Jaine x
Clio Williams fast, fun & fabulous
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