Agriculture ;)

kirsty_2003 · Post by **kirsty_2003** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:33 am

Administivia: split from in depth thread --dragon

volvofox wrote:euh, how much straw do you need

I will send you some bales.

stay cool,

"kalmte kan je redden"

ive probaly gone through enough straw to feed every animal that eats straw in the world lol

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:52 am

Thats me told, i thought straw was bedding material only!

John

wedge69 · Post by **wedge69** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:25 am

Straw is for bedding.

Hay is for eating.

Frantic · Post by **Frantic** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:00 pm

...and when there's alot of smoke around your head,
there must be a small fire near

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:15 pm

wedge69 wrote:Straw is for bedding.

Hay is for eating.

They tend to feed cows straw (in addition to hay/haylage) because they can cope with it - silage is often rotted straw, keeping the more precious hay for the important animals like horses

kirsty_2003 · Post by **kirsty_2003** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:12 pm

lol
i knew some animal had to eat straw

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:29 pm

So really the question is, is Kirsty's car a cow or a racehorse? (or maybe a genetically engineered fox?!)

kirsty_2003 · Post by **kirsty_2003** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:50 pm

lol i think its more of a "bitch" than anything lol, or maybe a tortoise

pol · Post by **pol** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:02 pm

No wonder its fu@*ed if you keep putting straw in it.
Maybe it's worth checking this regulator thing on the alt. Maybe thats why you're getting through so many ECU's?

pol

volvofox · Post by **volvofox** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:27 pm

dragon wrote:
wedge69 wrote:Straw is for bedding.

Hay is for eating.
They tend to feed cows straw (in addition to hay/haylage) because they can cope with it - silage is often rotted straw, keeping the more precious hay for the important animals like horses

straw is rest material of grain. some grains straw is eatable for herbivores some straw doesn't absorb moist well, so un fit for bedding. Btw. most of the cardbord we use is made of plain straw. Hoses, unlike cows need more rough structure, like rough hay, and some straw in their diet to keep them healthy. So the "bad" hay goes to the horses, my friend ! Feed a horse a few days cows food like balanced diet of fourage (a.o. chopped mais), the horse dies.

btw, silage is not rotten straw, its sealed single day dried gras, that rots so long until the air is gone under the plastic (or in the silo) and then gets preserved. same procedure as "sauerkraut" ("rotten" white cabbage) like "sauerkraut" it gets a bit acid. Kills horses too.

(sorry, did not want to discuss this, it seems my "joke" got out of hand

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Joolz · Post by **Joolz** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:13 pm

jpf is there anything your not an expert on?????

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:18 pm

Joolz wrote:jpf is there anything your not an expert on?????

Except he is not completely true on the points...

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:33 pm

volvofox wrote:
dragon wrote:
wedge69 wrote:Straw is for bedding.

Hay is for eating.
They tend to feed cows straw (in addition to hay/haylage) because they can cope with it - silage is often rotted straw, keeping the more precious hay for the important animals like horses
Hoses, unlike cows need more rough structure, like rough hay, and some straw in their diet to keep them healthy. So the "bad" hay goes to the horses, my friend !

Not really true, in the UK at least - straw is NOT a foodstuff, as it is a high inducer of colic, which is quite often fatal in horses, but the idea that "bad" hay goes to horses is ludicrous on the face of it - but then you're not actually telling us what "bad" hay is in this context.

volvofox wrote: btw, silage is not rotten straw, its sealed single day dried gras, that rots so long until the air is gone under the plastic (or in the silo) and then gets preserved. same procedure as "sauerkraut" ("rotten" white cabbage) like "sauerkraut" it gets a bit acid. Kills horses too.

Well, not completely - there's 2 types - "big bale", which as you describe is grass baled and kept airtight but the important point that you didn't mention is that it's cut grass that's rolled and baled WHILST WET - it may be wilted for 24 hours, but it is not turned and dried, which is why it's moisture content is so high.The second type is silo produced - there's different moisture content in them both. Oh, it doesn't kill horses, it's true the perception is that you generally don't feed it to horses because the moisture content is too high, which MAY lead to micro organisms which MAY lead to botchilism in horses. Also the pH too low, and is generally too low in fibre for horses

Haylage is made in a similar way, but is dried before packing airtight, this means it has a lower moisture level than silage, and if I remember correctly they want at MOST 50% moisture and preferably around 35%.

Of course in the UK they throw any old junk in the cows feed

This thread's gone a bit silly really...

MatBat · Post by **MatBat** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:41 pm

And here I was feeding my Horses Indian Takeaway Vindaloo. You learn something new everyday.

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:44 pm

One of my friend was stupid enough to feed chicken McNuggets to their pony... grrrr

Still, I suppose there's no meat in McD's chicken mcnuggets so maybe it was ok afterall?!?!?

Murf · Post by **Murf** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:05 pm

speakin of mcd's has any one tried the big tasty (or whatever its called)?
i had one yesterday and it was well nice,a proper burger,not like their other shite!

volvofox · Post by **volvofox** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:03 pm

Joolz wrote:jpf is there anything your not an expert on?????

woman

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:31 pm

In my experience horses like polo mints the best... Maybe not the best dietary supplement...

The big tasty... the unhealthy option at McDonalds - hahaha

- it does look good though. Maybe we should get Kirsty's car to do the taste test.

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:39 am

- it does look good though. Maybe we should get Kirsty's car to do the taste test.

It really would be slow as shit then.

Sophie · Post by **Sophie** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:15 am

My fjord mare eats tortilla crisps, bananas, dryed apricots, my AA ned eats mars bars, and likes beer mixed in his breakfast before competitions

(I no, i'm not allowed to, but no horse is tested for drugs here), and my other fjord eats anything, he's more like a goat than a horse !
My horses have always eaten straw, and I've never ever had any problems...