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Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:52 pm
by edie_fox
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-480-Su ... ondition=4

I can't work out if he's saying his car that it doesn't fit is manual or the subframe is from a manual car. I'm sure someone on here can clear it up from appearance.

Either way, did someone want one not long ago or did I dream that?

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:46 pm
by MisterH
Think it's for a 1.7 auto reading closely

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:44 pm
by edie_fox
:lol: I either missed that completely or he's just added it. :bla:
If I hadn't just bought a rabbit I would probably be interested in this.... Rabbit or subframe? One will have to be given up.

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:58 pm
by MisterH
edie_fox wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:44 pm
:lol: I either missed that completely or he's just added it. :bla:
If I hadn't just bought a rabbit I would probably be interested in this.... Rabbit or subframe? One will have to be given up.
The Rabbit could live in the subframe...

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:06 pm
by dragonflyjewels
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I read his ad as saying it's an auto subframe, but it's not, it's manual.......confused ? I am !

Edie, go with the rabbit

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:12 pm
by edie_fox
Haha, I was considering it for spares too (I'm auto) as it's not far from me and looks ok.

Oh well. Surprise rabbit for Fox it is then. :D

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:09 pm
by Alan 480
dragonflyjewels wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:06 pm
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I read his ad as saying it's an auto subframe, but it's not, it's manual.......confused ? I am !

Edie, go with the rabbit
I'm not sure that this is correct info, they are ONLY different at the rear as different ages/styles of rear mount.

the auto box mounting is REALLY different at front NS (UK version) as it has a 'kink' in front cross tube (from memory)

I modified an early subframe to fit EVA, a wee bit of metal glue was required, can post phots if needed.

the one in the advert is DEFFO an automatic, it has a heavier NS section,

the manual is a full length straight tube and 'almost symmetrical'

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:00 pm
by dragonflyjewels
The photo at the top is a sub frame that came out of a 480 auto. The one underneath is now in my manual 2ltre.

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:08 pm
by dragonflyjewels
Actually, thinking about it, I'm not sure the top one didnt come out of a 460 auto, which might explain the difference. Definitely for an auto mount though.

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:20 pm
by Alan 480
the front N/S corner of the subframe is the 'killer' that stops you fitting an auto subframe onto a manual.

In a manual the O/S & N/S are 'very similar' I think I have a photo of what I bought

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here is old style after graft the engine mount from EVA onto it, apologies it's upside down but grabbed a photo just before installed it into EVA

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I'm not sure if the lower suspension mounts are also different?

I have a feeling that there are subtle differences, but only a feeling.....

hope photos visible?

Re: Subframe - Hull

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:38 pm
by Alan 480
Found the key phot which shows three out of four permutations :-)

note the kink in Auto mount at front edge...

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from the back,

OLD style Manual
OLD style Auto
NEW style Manual

New style REAR engine mount was deeper and so had a dropped section in the rear.