IÂ´m selling a nice Volvo 480 ES Pressinformation map !!!!!!!

Daniel480 · Post by **Daniel480** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:11 pm

Please take a look

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Mfc ... 2230754121

Thanks for looking

Dan

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volvofox · Post by **volvofox** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 10:44 pm

why do you do so ????

You ain't gonna tell me you need the 1.50 hard ?

now if you have a double, ok.... but.

( have also a "useless" champagne glass in my closet, with a daf 600 on it., used as they introduced the first car they build..... Its just a glass, nothing special, but i never sell it !)

strangegame · Post by **strangegame** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:51 am

I Dont understand Why you want to sell it what do you honestly think you will get

Daniel480 · Post by **Daniel480** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:48 pm

mhm,

iÂ´m a collector, so iÂ´ve got a lot items

And from some items, i have 2-3 ! Just like from thisone

Dan

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:53 pm

I see a lot of things on ebay DE I would like to buy, but for some very strange reason, not many Germans seem to use PayPal or similar, which is a shame, because sending money electronicaly or via a bank cheque is far too expensive from the UK for most items

I resorted to sending cash for the last ebay Item I got from Germany (a very nice and very heavy model of a black 480)

Why do so few (in fact none who's stuff catches my eye) Germans use PayPal - you guys really are missing out on a lot of potential buyers...

Glival · Post by **Glival** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:06 pm

dragon wrote:I see a lot of things on ebay DE I would like to buy, but for some very strange reason, not many Germans seem to use PayPal or similar, which is a shame, because sending money electronicaly or via a bank cheque is far too expensive from the UK for most items

I resorted to sending cash for the last ebay Item I got from Germany (a very nice and very heavy model of a black 480)

Why do so few (in fact none who's stuff catches my eye) Germans use PayPal - you guys really are missing out on a lot of potential buyers...

I've never used PayPal... I use my creditcard to pay for online orders (webshops), and internet banking for non-webshop-items (like on Ebay)... if the seller gives you his international bank number, transferring money is free (up to â‚¬18.000 or so) between European countries. Maybe it only works this way for Euro-currency-countries?

Daniel480 · Post by **Daniel480** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:20 pm

Hi,

i think not much germans have an creditcard.

And, Paypal is not availible via the german ebay, i think

I still donÂ´t have one myselve, but that will change before my sweden holiday

I just opened an Paypal account. Stupid by myselve, i didnÂ´t know that you donÂ´t need an card

Dan

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:31 pm

Glival wrote:if the seller gives you his international bank number, transferring money is free (up to ?18.000 or so) between European countries. Maybe it only works this way for Euro-currency-countries?

NO NO and thrice NO!!!

It is NOT free to send money from the UK (as a non euro country) to continental europe, even using the BIC and IBAN (known as swift code here) - banks are NOT allowed to charge more for a transfer anywhere in Europe than they would charge to send the same amount of the same currency within your own country. This works great in continental europe, because transferring euros to a bank in your country is free - therefore sending euros to a bank in europe is also free.

BUT, as already mentioned, the UK is not a euro-zone, so Banks charge the same to send euros to continental europe as they would charge to send euros within the UK, which just happens to be a VERY high charge - in the order of up to 25% more!

It is just not practical to send euros from UK bank accounts (well certainly not HSBC or Abbey)...

MatBat · Post by **MatBat** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:55 pm

Gaz, perhaps you should open a swiss account for all your dodgy dealings

Only Kidding mate.

Glival · Post by **Glival** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:52 pm

Or you could give me.. say 200 pounds at the next meeting, and let me pay for your european orders

Maybe if you send the seller an e-mail about the advantages of PayPall, he'll create an account.

Website · Post by **coyote1980** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:00 pm

My bank tells me the following rules apply for transferring money in the EU (*) :

1) Fill out EURO as currency type
2) Maximum amount of â‚¬ 12,500.- per transfer
3) Use the BIC (Bank Identifier Code) of the bank of the receiver
4) Use the IBAN (International Bank Account Number) of the receiver

(*) The EU are currently: Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Holland, Austria, Portugal, Spain, the U.K. and Sweden.

I have just transferred money to Sweden and am looking forward to see how this ends up. Transferring to the U.K. should be no different for me and transferring from the U.K. to continental EU should also give no problems. But when banks don't agree with EU-terms they are expected to follow, well, they're in control... (and should receive big fines when they don't follow this piece of legislation...) Just check this with your own bank before doing it of course

Glival · Post by **Glival** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:05 pm

The website of my bank says that's only true for countries that signed the "EC 2560/2001", which says that the charge for transferring money internationally should be the same as the charge for transferring money in the country itself.

By the way, I also transferred money to Sweden yesterday; I guess you bought a pair of white indicaters?

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:38 pm

coyote1980 wrote:My bank tells me the following rules apply for transferring money in the EU (*) :

1) Fill out EURO as currency type
2) Maximum amount of ? 12,500.- per transfer
3) Use the BIC (Bank Identifier Code) of the bank of the receiver
4) Use the IBAN (International Bank Account Number) of the receiver

(*) The EU are currently: Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Holland, Austria, Portugal, Spain, the U.K. and Sweden.

I have just transferred money to Sweden and am looking forward to see how this ends up. Transferring to the U.K. should be no different for me and transferring from the U.K. to continental EU should also give no problems. But when banks don't agree with EU-terms they are expected to follow, well, they're in control... (and should receive big fines when they don't follow this piece of legislation...) Just check this with your own bank before doing it of course

*YOU* CAN send money to the UK with no problems/extra charge (possibly)
*WE* CANNOT send money in euros to you without HIGH CHARGE

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:39 pm

Glival wrote:The website of my bank says that's only true for countries that signed the "EC 2560/2001", which says that the charge for transferring money internationally should be the same as the charge for transferring money in the country itself.

Which is kind of what I said, was it not? Unfortunately our charges are high for sending euros within this country, so charges are high for sending out of the country...

BTW: Banks in the UK never even know what IBAN and BIC are - I ALWAYS have to describe what these numbers are, and they ALWAYS have to go and ring someone else to find out what it means in their own manual of operation

I HATE BANKS

Daniel480 · Post by **Daniel480** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:45 pm

Certainly not.

For example german banks charge 15 Euro !!, if makeing money over to a U.K. account !! When useing BIC and SWIFTcode !!!!

And the U.K. bank charges even more then.

I think, it was the HSBC bank

A banktransfer to "Euro" countries only costs 1 Euro !, when useing BIC and Swiftcode.

I hate Europe. The only good thing about it is this club

Dan

Glival · Post by **Glival** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:58 pm

dragon wrote:Which is kind of what I said, was it not?

True, I meant to confirm your post. I hadn't read the website of my bank when submitted my first post.

dragon wrote:Unfortunately our charges are high for sending euros within this country, so charges are high for sending out of the country...

BTW: Banks in the UK never even know what IBAN and BIC are - I ALWAYS have to describe what these numbers are, and they ALWAYS have to go and ring someone else to find out what it means in their own manual of operation

I HATE BANKS

I never liked PayPal, but now I understand why it has become more popular lately..

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:11 pm

I'm in a better mood now

Nothing like getting some 480 goodies at good prices to cheer the soul

Website · Post by **coyote1980** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:14 pm

dragon wrote:I'm in a better mood now

Nothing like getting some 480 goodies at good prices to cheer the soul

OK, I understand the problems that are going on. I hope UK banks will one day too join the rest of Europe when it comes down to bank transfers

That they don't even know what IBAN and BIC are is a terrible start...

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:44 pm

Easy boys, Might crack his paint work

Ekoedijk · Post by **Ekoedijk** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:46 am

I have PayPal for 3 years now. And never had any problems with it. I mostly buy items on e-bay from the USA. And there they all got PayPal.