Another dreamer?

Cleaned up the garage, found parts laying around, but it turned out to be a complete Volvo 480? If you want to sell your car (480 only) you can place an advert here.

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Another dreamer?

Post by MisterH » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:00 am

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1243512

Seems a bit low? Also despise that number plate :badmood:


Think the estimate is a bit high for something that doesn't look perfect - what do you all think?
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by dcwalker » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:22 am

"blisteringly quick" - I know turbos can shift, but really??!! :rofl:

That's had some serious bashing about the front end. The number plate is horrible as you say Ben, plus of course it is missing its holder. The grille/fog-light surround looks to be broken and I suspect the bumper is off its side mounting at least on the driver's side.

That's just for starters...

So yes, another dreamer.

BTW, that dodgy looking white one has lost a couple more thousand pounds off its asking price I see - a mere £4.5K now :lol:

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Previous: Celebration 467 (returned to Martin Mc); Celebration 346 (re-homed with Alan480); Celebration 269 (scrapped abandoned project), Celebration 73 (sold on after 6 years), 1992 ES, 1988 ES - and numerous other non-480 Volvos!

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by 100 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:25 am

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/26115/lot/92/

Some more pics.

Dodgy numberplate (although weirdly think it suits the styling of the car!), exhaust and head unit; no floor mats, little red flashing light on the dashboard is missing, aftermarket speakers (no bad thing) but they are showing through the speaker grills and has paint peeling from the front left on the bumper. Not to mention, it's dirty!

I'll let Jeff destroy the rest. Looks like a grubby example which is a shame because I don't think any of us are adverse to £5k for a lovely example, it's just a shame that the only cars above £2k are traders chancing it.
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by MisterH » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:40 am

Yes I certainly think this car is 'ropey' as you said let Jeff unload a broadside into it and excommunicate the owner, when will people get the message?
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by jamescarruthers » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:52 am

That has surfaced for sale in the last few years. I think it was over N. Ireland and had been sitting for many years. I don't know of it was good storage or bad. Someone's obviously done some work for an MOT. I'll presume the bare minimum as they haven't mentioned any of it in the listing. 
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 2.4T convertible (Olivolvo)
2003 Renault Avantime 3.0 V6 (Big Ren)
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by jifflemon » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:11 am

where to start.......

No MOT currently - there's your starting point for a 5k car....

"*Rare manual gearbox model – one of a believed 12 survivors" :rofl:
" the typically solid Volvo bodywork is said to be very good" :rofl:

Missing front spoiler
missing drivers tipping Seat knob
cracked seat belt button
NSR seat not fitted correctly
Heater buttons....
Centre guages not sitting correctly
Alarm LED missing
NSR arch looks to be full of filler

If that's 5k, then Henry's going in for 12k!

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by MisterH » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:28 am

When was the last sensibly priced (non forum) 480 you saw?
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by Martin Mc » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:13 pm

Mine! :lol:
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Previous 480 pedigree: 1992 ES (1.7 White) 1993 ES (2.0 Red) 1994 S (1.7 White) 1994 ES 2.0 (metallic red) 1995 S (1.7 Black) 1993 ES (2.0 Paris Blue) (0ver to you Keith!) #467/480 Celebration (flame red metallic)
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by jifflemon » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:33 pm

Martin Mc wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:13 pm
Mine! :lol:
I'd actually agree... It seemed in very good condition and was fairly priced.

However......
MisterH wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:28 am
When was the last sensibly priced (non forum) 480 you saw?
Non Forum.... (ok, you advertised it elsewhere i know!)

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by brinkie » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:31 pm

No MOT currently, and given the list of defects the car failed two subsequent MOTs (one month apart - listing some of the same defects) makes it very unlikely to get it MOT'ed without major investments.

Date tested 15 May 2020
FAIL
Mileage 56,234 miles

Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects):
Front Steering component mounting prescribed area is corroded to the extent that control of the vehicle is likely to be adversely affected subframe corroded near steering rack mount (2.1.2 (e) (ii))
Front Sub-frame insecure and impairing directional stability sub frame corroded (5.3.3 (a) (ii))

Repair immediately (major defects):
Offside Rear Seat belt buckle missing (7.1.2 (d))
Offside Rear Seat belt anchorage prescribed area strength or continuity significantly reduced inner wheel arch and outer sill (7.1.1 (a) (i))
Offside Windscreen damaged and affecting the driver's view of the road (3.2 (a) (ii))
Nearside Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (3.4 (b) (ii))
Offside Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (3.4 (b) (ii))
Offside Front Position lamp not working (4.2.1 (a) (ii))
Headlamp aim not tested head lamp mech not rising headlamps to position (4.1.2 (b))
Headlamp not working on dipped beam head lamps not rising to position when switched on (4.1.1 (a) (ii))
Hazard warning switch inoperative (4.4.2 (a) (ii))
Hazard warning lamps inoperative all lamps (4.4.1 (e))
Nearside Front Direction indicator not working (4.4.1 (a) (ii))
Offside Front Direction indicator not working (4.4.1 (a) (ii))
Emissions not tested unable to run engine at steady revs and part of in take system missing (8.2.1.2 (d))
Emission control equipment missing where fitted as standard maf sensor disconnected and intake pipes missing (8.2.1.1 (a))
Oil leaking excessively from engine sump plug area (8.4.1 (a) (i))
Offside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area excessively corroded significantly reducing structural strength inner wheel arch and outer sill (5.3.6 (a) (i))
Offside Front Sub-frame corroded and seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Nearside Front Brake hose excessively deteriorated (1.1.12 (b) (ii))
Offside Front Tyre fouling a part of the vehicle inner wing and brake hose (5.2.3 (f))
Brake performance not tested due to condition of front sub frame unsafe to carry out brake test (1.2.1 (g))
Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Hazard warning switch insecure (4.4.2 (a) (i))
Offside Registration plate lamp inoperative in the case of multiple lamps or light sources (4.7.1 (b) (i))
Offside Front Brake hose slightly chafed (1.1.12 (b) (i))

Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Offside Front day time running light inop
Offside Front Tyre slightly damaged/cracking or perishing perished (5.2.3 (d) (ii))
Nearside Rear Tyre slightly damaged/cracking or perishing perished (5.2.3 (d) (ii))
Offside Rear Tyre slightly damaged/cracking or perishing perished (5.2.3 (d) (ii))


Date tested 18 June 2020
FAIL
Mileage 56,241 miles

Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects):
Nearside Front Suspension arm ball joint likely to become detached Split pin missing (5.3.4 (a) (ii))
Offside Front Suspension arm ball joint likely to become detached Split pin missing (5.3.4 (a) (ii))

Repair immediately (major defects):
Offside Front Position lamp not working (4.2.1 (a) (ii))
Nearside Front Direction indicator not working (4.4.1 (a) (ii))
Offside Front Direction indicator not working (4.4.1 (a) (ii))
Offside Rear Rear fog lamp not working (4.5.1 (a) (ii))
Offside Rear Inner Seat belt anchorage prescribed area strength or continuity significantly reduced Arch (7.1.1 (a) (i))
Offside Rear Seat belt missing Stalk (7.1.2 (a))
Brake pipe excessively corroded Across the rear frame (1.1.11 (c))
Nearside Front Brake hose bulging under pressure (1.1.12 (d))
Parking brake efficiency below requirements (1.4.2 (a) (i))

Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Registration plate lamp inoperative in the case of multiple lamps or light sources (4.7.1 (b) (i))
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by jifflemon » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:54 pm

Have had an interesting call with Bonhams....

The car is currently being worked on, and will have an MOT before the sale. Apparently it's had a new* subframe fitted and there's just some "silly little bits" to be addressed.... :eek:

I can book in to view the car up to 3 days before the auction (so 23/24/25th)....

:rofl:

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by jamescarruthers » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:05 pm

Basically its a few few hundred pounds project car then.
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 2.4T convertible (Olivolvo)
2003 Renault Avantime 3.0 V6 (Big Ren)
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by MisterH » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:30 pm

That's a very comprehensively done in bank balance for whoever is trying to get it ready for sale, if they have any respect for selling a decent car.



I believe the Royal Navy have a certain term for this sort of thing
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by Jay-Kay-Em » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:41 pm

jifflemon wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:54 pm
Have had an interesting call with Bonhams....

The car is currently being worked on, and will have an MOT before the sale. Apparently it's had a new* subframe fitted and there's just some "silly little bits" to be addressed.... :eek:
I'd be interested where he purchased his new subframe :rofl:

The 12 remaining statement isn't that far off if you trust "how many left.co.uk". Turbo, manual, non-sunroof... 11 only taxed for first quarter 2020. Many are SORN i'm sure, but there is no denying its rarity in 2020.

Interesting the repeated stabs at an Mot!

If that makes 5-7k in a no reserve auction i'll eat my hat - but who am I to argue with Bonhams of all people. Lets hope it does!

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by Alan 480 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:47 pm

Jay-Kay-Em wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:41 pm

I'd be interested where he purchased his new subframe :rofl:

The 12 remaining statement isn't that far off if you trust "how many left.co.uk". Turbo, manual, non-sunroof... 11 only taxed for first quarter 2020. Many are SORN i'm sure, but there is no denying its rarity in 2020.
maybe 'new to car'?
it is actually possible, just, with engine and running gear / front suspension left 'in-situ' :wink:

biggest problem is getting the subframe over the lambda sensor fitting!!
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by jifflemon » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:03 pm

Jay-Kay-Em wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:41 pm
jifflemon wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:54 pm
Have had an interesting call with Bonhams....

The car is currently being worked on, and will have an MOT before the sale. Apparently it's had a new* subframe fitted and there's just some "silly little bits" to be addressed.... :eek:
I'd be interested where he purchased his new subframe :rofl:

The 12 remaining statement isn't that far off if you trust "how many left.co.uk". Turbo, manual, non-sunroof... 11 only taxed for first quarter 2020. Many are SORN i'm sure, but there is no denying its rarity in 2020.

Interesting the repeated stabs at an Mot!

If that makes 5-7k in a no reserve auction i'll eat my hat - but who am I to argue with Bonhams of all people. Lets hope it does!
Yes, "new" subframe made me chortle too.....

I also pointed out that how many left's figures can only represent taxed or untaxed vehicles, and that thanks to the current pandemic, many owners (myself included) have Sorn'ed cars that would have normally been taxed.

The other curious thing about the MOT stabs, is that the second attempt was a different station, with clearly no attempt made at repairing some of the original faults! Clearly they knew better than the man from the ministry eh? Either that or they forget that since computerising the system, the tester can easily see previous MOT's so has a starting point for looking for stuff.

Its a another 200 quid project car in my eyes

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by dragonflyjewels » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:25 pm

Date tested 18 June 2020
FAIL
Mileage 56,241 miles

Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects):
Nearside Front Suspension arm ball joint likely to become detached Split pin missing (5.3.4 (a) (ii))
Offside Front Suspension arm ball joint likely to become detached Split pin missing (5.3.4 (a) (ii))

Repair immediately (major defects):
Offside Front Position lamp not working (4.2.1 (a) (ii))
Nearside Front Direction indicator not working (4.4.1 (a) (ii))
Offside Front Direction indicator not working (4.4.1 (a) (ii))
Offside Rear Rear fog lamp not working (4.5.1 (a) (ii))
Offside Rear Inner Seat belt anchorage prescribed area strength or continuity significantly reduced Arch (7.1.1 (a) (i))
Offside Rear Seat belt missing Stalk (7.1.2 (a))
Brake pipe excessively corroded Across the rear frame (1.1.11 (c))
Nearside Front Brake hose bulging under pressure (1.1.12 (d))
Parking brake efficiency below requirements (1.4.2 (a) (i))

Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Registration plate lamp inoperative in the case of multiple lamps or light sources (4.7.1 (b) (i))
That's an impressive list for 'silly little bits' I wonder what they'd consider big bits ? :lol:
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by Jay-Kay-Em » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:42 pm

jifflemon wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:03 pm

Its a another 200 quid project car in my eyes
Those days are gone I think for Manual Turbos...

This made £930 in an open auction remember... no MoT, a non-driver and all sorts of un-told rust issues!

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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by MisterH » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:58 pm

Jay-Kay-Em wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:42 pm
jifflemon wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:03 pm

Its a another 200 quid project car in my eyes
Those days are gone I think for Manual Turbos...

This made £930 in an open auction remember... no MoT, a non-driver and all sorts of un-told rust issues!
Any idea what 440 Turbos are worth? I am beginning to have a 440 Turbo shaped itch I am thinking about wanting to try and scratch...
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Re: Another dreamer?

Post by jifflemon » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:46 pm

Jay-Kay-Em wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:42 pm
Those days are gone I think for Manual Turbos...

This made £930 in an open auction remember... no MoT, a non-driver and all sorts of un-told rust issues!
You're assuming it sold to an actual buyer.... :wink:

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