Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
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Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1168813
Takes the recent theme of 'asking all the money' to dizzying new heights
Takes the recent theme of 'asking all the money' to dizzying new heights
Current Jobs to do (23/1/22):
Fix Central Locking
Fix drivers side speaker
Annoying Scratching Squeak
Water leaks
Complete Front O/S rebuild
Fix Central Locking
Fix drivers side speaker
Annoying Scratching Squeak
Water leaks
Complete Front O/S rebuild
- jamescarruthers
- 480 Is my middle name
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- Location: Cambridge
Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
Epic feelings of want
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
- WRDendy
- Can tell where the 480 was built
- Posts: 326
- Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:33 pm
- Location: Oxford
Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
Looks familiar!
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35643
So it's done 16km since it was sold last year and gained £14,675 in value!
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35643
So it's done 16km since it was sold last year and gained £14,675 in value!
Formerly known as 'Jaster'
Current: '94 GT & '88 ES
Former: '89 ES
Current: '94 GT & '88 ES
Former: '89 ES
Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
But what would you do with it? If it can't be driven and enjoyed, and your not a museum, I do fail to see the point.
Didn't I also see that someone said it lacked a VIN so couldn't be legal anyway?
Current Jobs to do (23/1/22):
Fix Central Locking
Fix drivers side speaker
Annoying Scratching Squeak
Water leaks
Complete Front O/S rebuild
Fix Central Locking
Fix drivers side speaker
Annoying Scratching Squeak
Water leaks
Complete Front O/S rebuild
Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
Absolutely!
Leaving aside the VIN query would you ever drive it? If not, then it is just a very expensive ornament...since I am not a museum, and I don't have somewhere to store it in the hope that in another few years it will be worth a further several thousand pounds AND a buyer is out there, I think I'll pass on this one (lovely as it does, of course, look...)
David
Current: 1994 480 GT, 1996 460 CD & 1997 440 LE with lots of optional extras & 2007 V50 SE Sport
Previous: Celebration 331 (re-homed with Richard S), Celebration 467 (returned to Martin Mc); Celebration 346 (re-homed with Alan480); Celebration 269 (scrapped abandoned project), Celebration 73 (sold on after 6 years), 1992 ES, 1988 ES - and numerous other non-480 Volvos!
Previous: Celebration 331 (re-homed with Richard S), Celebration 467 (returned to Martin Mc); Celebration 346 (re-homed with Alan480); Celebration 269 (scrapped abandoned project), Celebration 73 (sold on after 6 years), 1992 ES, 1988 ES - and numerous other non-480 Volvos!
- brinkie
- 480 Connoisseur
- Posts: 861
- Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:20 am
- Location: The Netherlands
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
Bump to an old topic. I've asked the seller if it could be registered. Their response: there are no registration papers and registration would probably be difficult, but why on earth would you want to drive it, as it has only 77 km and you would like to stay it that way.
Dutch 480 enthusiasts recall that it has been tried before to get the car registered and Volvo firmly said "No", because the car is officially scrapped. The car was a prototype with a Volvo 340 driver's seat, someone must have installed a new and correct interior somewhere in history.
TL;DR: Will probably remain for sale forever.
Dutch 480 enthusiasts recall that it has been tried before to get the car registered and Volvo firmly said "No", because the car is officially scrapped. The car was a prototype with a Volvo 340 driver's seat, someone must have installed a new and correct interior somewhere in history.
TL;DR: Will probably remain for sale forever.
Robert.
Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i, 1999 Volvo S70 2.5 Europa, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum
Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i, 1999 Volvo S70 2.5 Europa, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum
- Murf
- Friend of Club 480 Europe
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
I'm sure you could register it in the UK if you really tried. I've read of cars that have a VIN number stamped on after it's been imported and the DVLA are happy with that.
Failing that could you put it through an SVA test like a kit car?
Still far too expensive for all of that effort though
Failing that could you put it through an SVA test like a kit car?
Still far too expensive for all of that effort though
Kia Pro'ceed GT 1.6 Turbo
1992 480 Turbo
2007 Focus ST
1992 480 Turbo
2007 Focus ST
- brinkie
- 480 Connoisseur
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
In the UK you can try a single vehicle approval and a Q-plate if all else fails.
In The Netherlands you can't, because for registration without registration papers you need the help of the manufacturer or importer, and Volvo will tell the authorities that the car has never been registered and has officially been scrapped. Maybe you can get it registered as a new vehicle, which will require you to pay a lot of tax. Think of the same amount of tax as the car is currently offered for, plus 21% VAT.
There are documented cases where a car got a new VIN, but that was because the original VIN wasn't readable anymore. No registration papers and no known previous registration means no registration, period.
Unless you're a Volvo collector, it's a very expensive paperweight...
In The Netherlands you can't, because for registration without registration papers you need the help of the manufacturer or importer, and Volvo will tell the authorities that the car has never been registered and has officially been scrapped. Maybe you can get it registered as a new vehicle, which will require you to pay a lot of tax. Think of the same amount of tax as the car is currently offered for, plus 21% VAT.
There are documented cases where a car got a new VIN, but that was because the original VIN wasn't readable anymore. No registration papers and no known previous registration means no registration, period.
Unless you're a Volvo collector, it's a very expensive paperweight...
Robert.
Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i, 1999 Volvo S70 2.5 Europa, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum
Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i, 1999 Volvo S70 2.5 Europa, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum
- jamescarruthers
- 480 Is my middle name
- Posts: 2510
- Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2003 3:19 pm
- Location: Cambridge
Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
I assume the 220km/h is using a frequency generator?
Alan
480 ES 2litre 'Celebration' ? , C30 1.8ES, SS1
480 ES 2litre 'Celebration' ? , C30 1.8ES, SS1
Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
I take serious issue with this James.
You can't take a 480 on a dead straight road, it needs corners!
- brinkie
- 480 Connoisseur
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- Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:20 am
- Location: The Netherlands
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium
it does!
Seriously, I know quite a few cars that got a new identity this way. Some were "educational" cars, Volvo donated them to schools, the cars were completely new and unused but didn't have a registration, so one from a scrap car was used. I even came across a car that got a new identity to have its registration date before 1988, which will make it very cheap in tax in The Netherlands (for a Volvo 480: € 100 a year instead of € 400).
But if you are going to buy *this* car for its current asking price and give it a new identity, it will immediately lose value. You could have done that when it was auctioned off for less than 5000 pounds two and a half years ago, you only needed to find a crusty early car and swap its VIN. But now it has changed hands twice and its sale price quadrupled, that would just kill off the value because you can't prove the low mileage anymore. It would be purely for your own satisfaction to drive a "new" Volvo 480 ES, with all the faults and teething problems that came with a pre-production car, many components will have aged badly just from having sat in a collection for years and good quality replacements are nigh on impossible to find.
Robert.
Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i, 1999 Volvo S70 2.5 Europa, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum
Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i, 1999 Volvo S70 2.5 Europa, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum