Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Cleaned up the garage, found parts laying around, but it turned out to be a complete Volvo 480? If you want to sell your car (480 only) you can place an advert here.

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Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by MisterH » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:42 am

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1168813

Takes the recent theme of 'asking all the money' to dizzying new heights :eek:
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:51 am

Epic feelings of want
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 2.4T convertible (Olivolvo)
2003 Renault Avantime 3.0 V6 (Big Ren)
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by Jaster » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:08 pm

Looks familiar!

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So it's done 16km since it was sold last year and gained £14,675 in value! :lol:
Current: '94 GT & '88 ES
Former: '89 ES

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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by MisterH » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:57 pm

jamescarruthers wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:51 am
Epic feelings of want
But what would you do with it? If it can't be driven and enjoyed, and your not a museum, I do fail to see the point.
Didn't I also see that someone said it lacked a VIN so couldn't be legal anyway?
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by dcwalker » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:16 pm

MisterH wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:57 pm
jamescarruthers wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:51 am
Epic feelings of want
But what would you do with it? If it can't be driven and enjoyed, and your not a museum, I do fail to see the point.
Didn't I also see that someone said it lacked a VIN so couldn't be legal anyway?
Absolutely!

Leaving aside the VIN query would you ever drive it? If not, then it is just a very expensive ornament...since I am not a museum, and I don't have somewhere to store it in the hope that in another few years it will be worth a further several thousand pounds AND a buyer is out there, I think I'll pass on this one (lovely as it does, of course, look...)

David
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Previous: Celebration 467 (returned to Martin Mc); Celebration 346 (re-homed with Alan480); Celebration 269 (scrapped abandoned project), Celebration 73 (sold on after 6 years), 1992 ES, 1988 ES - and numerous other non-480 Volvos!

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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by brinkie » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:46 pm

Bump to an old topic. I've asked the seller if it could be registered. Their response: there are no registration papers and registration would probably be difficult, but why on earth would you want to drive it, as it has only 77 km and you would like to stay it that way.

Dutch 480 enthusiasts recall that it has been tried before to get the car registered and Volvo firmly said "No", because the car is officially scrapped. The car was a prototype with a Volvo 340 driver's seat, someone must have installed a new and correct interior somewhere in history.

TL;DR: Will probably remain for sale forever.
Robert.

Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Vase Green, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum Mystic Silver
Past: 1981 Talbot-Matra Murena 2.2 Rouge Mephisto, 1995 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Paris Blue

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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by Murf » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:45 pm

I'm sure you could register it in the UK if you really tried. I've read of cars that have a VIN number stamped on after it's been imported and the DVLA are happy with that.
Failing that could you put it through an SVA test like a kit car?

Still far too expensive for all of that effort though 🙄
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by brinkie » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:10 pm

In the UK you can try a single vehicle approval and a Q-plate if all else fails.

In The Netherlands you can't, because for registration without registration papers you need the help of the manufacturer or importer, and Volvo will tell the authorities that the car has never been registered and has officially been scrapped. Maybe you can get it registered as a new vehicle, which will require you to pay a lot of tax. Think of the same amount of tax as the car is currently offered for, plus 21% VAT.
There are documented cases where a car got a new VIN, but that was because the original VIN wasn't readable anymore. No registration papers and no known previous registration means no registration, period.

Unless you're a Volvo collector, it's a very expensive paperweight...
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Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Vase Green, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum Mystic Silver
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by jamescarruthers » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:57 am

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1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 2.4T convertible (Olivolvo)
2003 Renault Avantime 3.0 V6 (Big Ren)
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by Alan 480 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:57 pm

I assume the 220km/h is using a frequency generator? :hopping:
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by 100 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:20 am

jamescarruthers wrote:
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I take serious issue with this James.

You can't take a 480 on a dead straight road, it needs corners!
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Re: Pre-Production car for sale in Belgium

Post by brinkie » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:17 am

100 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:20 am
I take serious issue with this James.

You can't take a 480 on a dead straight road, it needs corners!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: it does!

Seriously, I know quite a few cars that got a new identity this way. Some were "educational" cars, Volvo donated them to schools, the cars were completely new and unused but didn't have a registration, so one from a scrap car was used. I even came across a car that got a new identity to have its registration date before 1988, which will make it very cheap in tax in The Netherlands (for a Volvo 480: € 100 a year instead of € 400).

But if you are going to buy *this* car for its current asking price and give it a new identity, it will immediately lose value. You could have done that when it was auctioned off for less than 5000 pounds two and a half years ago, you only needed to find a crusty early car and swap its VIN. But now it has changed hands twice and its sale price quadrupled, that would just kill off the value because you can't prove the low mileage anymore. It would be purely for your own satisfaction to drive a "new" Volvo 480 ES, with all the faults and teething problems that came with a pre-production car, many components will have aged badly just from having sat in a collection for years and good quality replacements are nigh on impossible to find.
Robert.

Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Vase Green, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum Mystic Silver
Past: 1981 Talbot-Matra Murena 2.2 Rouge Mephisto, 1995 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Paris Blue

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