"The big you-name-it" topics, your thoughts please

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Do you think having "The big you-name-it topics" are a good idea?

Yes! I might even write one myself every now and then!
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Yes, please do, but I doubt I will ever write such a topic.
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Not sure, I leave it up to the rest and will later decide if I will write such topics.
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No. (please reply below to tell us why not)
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11%
 
Total votes: 19

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"The big you-name-it" topics, your thoughts please

Post by coyote1980 » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:10 am

Hi everyone,

I am also a big fan of the (worldfamous in Holland ;) ) Tweakers.net website. Their forums are well-maintained, look orderly and information you want to find can be found quite well.

There was one thing that I liked especially on their forums and that are "the big you-name-it topics". It is all in dutch, but here is a link you can visit to get an idea of what I am going to describe...

Link to a tweakers.net forum
Link to "the big BF2 topic - part IX


OK, I will try to explain the beauty of this with an example: the CEM

Someone starts a "The big CEM topic - part I" topic. The opening post in this topic will contain all currently known information on the CEM, like: what is a CEM, what does CEM mean, what functions are regulated through the CEM.

Following the basic CEM information links are placed with as title the problem that was covered in that other thread. This way someone can quickly find a solution to that previous problem.

At the end links are added to previous "big CEM topics", this way someone can easily travel to a previous "big CEM topic". After a while when new insights have become available a new "big CEM topic" starts. All the usefull information you can derive from messages in the previous part can be added to the openingpost of the new topic, and someone that wants to talk about the CEM doesn't have to struggle through pages filled with CEM talk.

At the moment this is just an idea. It will only work if there is enough interest on the forum to make an attempt to get this on the road. The idea is that forum members can start "big you-name-it topics" themselves once the guidelines for these posts have been exactly specified. Each opening-post for any subject should have the same structure, so that is something that should be thought of before we start this. But it is only worth investing time if, as I said, enough people like the idea.

So I invite everyone to answer the poll and reply here if you have anything to contribute to this subject :D
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Post by Big Brother » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:15 pm

I don't get it :?
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Post by chris1roll » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:29 pm

Me neither....
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Post by martinholmesuk » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:40 pm

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anyways you mean like we load the forum and want to know how to lower the car and Chris1roll has done a full guide complete with pictures of how it's done, Step by step and you click the link and then we know

That sort of thing?
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Post by robkendall » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:41 am

huh?

i like it the way it is.......
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Post by coyote1980 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:50 am

OK, I see that my suggestion hasn't been clear for everyone. @everyone that doesn't understand, could you please explain what part of the idea you don't understand? That would help when I try to further explain.

The forum wouldn't change much, things pretty much stay the way they are, but for most 'commonly troublesome' parts a thread of their own would exist. The CEM was just an example. Also a 'The big bad idling topic' could exist, for instance. The person that starts a "the big you-name-it" topic would have to combine lots of knowledge from the forum into a big starting-post. This new thread is then used as the only topic for that subject. After a while, when people have posted enough that same person (or another one if that person doesn't want to do it again) can start a 'Part II" with the same subject. He can write a new opening-post for that thread or use the previous opening post and add all important knowledge from the previous thread.

This idea is quite clever. Someone new on the forum can read simply that thread if, in case of a "The BIG CEM topic", he has a problem with the CEM and posess all knowledge that exists. If it is not helping him he can use the thread to post messages to get HIS problem solved. When a new "The Big ..." topic begins his problem and solution can be implemented in the starting post. This goes on and on with several topics which should make it easier to solve a problem.

For those that still have no idea if this would be a good idea: I could start one of these topics so everyone can exactly see what I mean.
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Post by 98kellrs » Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:16 pm

ah i get ya! But i don't know enough to do something like that.. :cryhard:
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Post by MrHyde » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:51 pm

I don't think that there's much knowledge needet, just time and some detectives work to extract all the information on one subject from the forum and put it in one posting.
Lots of work but nice to have when its done

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Post by coyote1980 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:01 pm

MrHyde wrote:I don't think that there's much knowledge needed, just time and some detectives work
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Indeed, you're absolutely right! It does help a bit to know 'some' things, but the more important thing is the search-function of the forum to locate valuable information. Heck, I will make start for a topic like this soon, will just take some time since I am not at home these days.
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Post by pol » Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:43 pm

I think it's a good idea, to hold all knowledge on 1 topic in a single place to avoid trailing back though old posts. Think I may have mentioned it ages ago as i've sen it on other forums. Couldn't hurt and wouldn't change the working of the forum.

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Post by SteveR » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:40 pm

Yes good idea.
When tracking through threads you often see that somone has dealt with it before only several pages away and then it is only some one who remebrs it and links it which saves hors of searching.
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Post by Ettore Bugatti » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:12 pm

Something like an FAQ and FYI (for your information) combined

Good idea!
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Post by martinholmesuk » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:15 pm

will new people still join/post if the answer is that easy to find?

posting and getting answers to there question is one way for people to stay and enjoy things on the forum :D
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Post by coyote1980 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:30 am

martinholmesuk wrote:posting and getting answers to there question is one way for people to stay and enjoy things on the forum :D
The problem is that if a newbie doesn't use the search function and simply posts his question the only answer he will get is 'use the bloody search function'. That's hardly motivating to join ;)

And if a certain topic doesn't bring the answer he can simply reply in that topic and still join :)
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Post by martinholmesuk » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:41 am

OK, that works
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Post by volviz » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:55 am

Ettore Bugatti wrote:Something like an FAQ and FYI (for your information) combined

Good idea!
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Post by stu chacks » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:59 pm

Gotta be a good idea. Although I like trawling through posts (to while away the hours at work!) sometimes it can be fustrating when you know you've seen something but can't find it.
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Post by suddy » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:56 pm

only glanced over this thread, but,

havn't we already got an FAQ for this idea on the main site?

it would be alot of faffing about for the techies in order to get all relavant infomation about a topic into one thread. (only thinking of your time lads)

imho, if you've got the time, then do it. but i wouldn't go out of your way as i am happy the way it is....
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Post by coyote1980 » Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:34 am

It's not bad the way it is now, and the last two weeks (and the rest of this week) I am not at home behind my computer so have to sneak here during work ;) And after July 30st I will be to Sweden for 3 weeks, so it will be some time before I can post the first topic and monitor it.

The FAQ is a good start when having a problem, but forum members don't write articles for the FAQ since they have no access to our server... With these topics it would be possible for people that suddenly have some spare time and miraculously a 480 without _any_ problems (:wink:) to gather useful data on a subject (for instance when they have just been working on that subject themselves) and put it in one topic.

Of course there are advantages (info-in-reach) and disadvantages (time-consuming) to this, so that is why I started this thread. I still believe it's worth the effort (to give it a try at least) and I had started on a CEM-topic back at home, but that will have to wait until after Sweden...
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Post by volvofox » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:48 pm

whats the reason behind this idea ?

you tried things before in this direction..

my replay to this was back then that noone comes to a pub that is made out of a steel bar with beer tap and empty concrete walls.. I meant : donot take out the silly things here, it will be a unpleasant forum then.. noone rreads a dictionary or enceclopedia for fun...

I agree this forum is getting monstoes proportions. any way

any good route in between is maybe a good option.. but donot change a winning team to much.

open for any good change any way to mine further uninportant oppinion.
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