High torque clutch for late Turbo's + pics
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:43 pm
As promised details, now with pics:
(and btw, got my ecu dilivered back to me from Richard Pruen on
chrismas eve, just a small box, nothing like coyote's rims, but longed for
equally much i guess.Hope next saturday will work after checking CO and adjusting MAF resistance.)
Finished fitting last saturday and went fine.
Only pressure plate needs adjusting of bore witdh of 3 the holes to fit the 3 centerpoints(?) on flywheel: bore to 8 mm, try fit on flywheel and adjust bore again when needed, very precise and equally much!
Only when fit 100%, then fit with clutchplate, tight bolts with hand, center plate and tighten, may well go up to as much as 55 NM instead of standard 21 Nm.
Pre-tension is much higher, it is a high torque, heavy duty clutch!
Locktite maybe ? ( i did not use it )
New clutchcable i did.
How i came to this;
did some (re)search on the internet(see listing), read a lot on this forum about clutches, flywheels, gearboxes like M59/JC5,maybe interchangeble parts with Renault and so on.
E-mailed ZF SRE twice, no answer, called them and i should contact a ZF SRE distributor in Holland: Again they couldn't or wouldn't tell me if this would fit a 480.Did say it being a special order with NO return possibly.
But when Valeo specifies a Renault clutch for JC5 to be a 215 mm one, then again Sachs and ZF SRE specify the same clutch as a a 210 mm for JC5, Volvo M59 and Renault JC5 are very similar gearboxes and a 480 2.0 L has a 210 mm clutch and usus the same flywheel as late Turbo's,
i went for it.
Pro: torque and endurance.
Con: price = euro 600
I used the SRE 999771 pressureplate with the 999877 sintered torsion clutch disc.( max 70 Nm plus over organic plate 999862)
Listing:
Important: ONLY for:
Volvo 480 from vin .......567600 and on (late turbo with originally 215 mm clutch)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VALEO VALEO VALEO
Volvo 480
801307 (clutch set partsnr)
Vanaf bj.: 04/1988 Tot bj.: 07/1995
Vanaf chassisnr.: 567600
Type versnellingsbak: M59.
VALEO VALEO VALEO
Renault Renault
LAGUNA (B56_, 556_)
1.8 16V (B563, B564)
Motorcodes F4P 760
Vanaf bj.: 09/1998 Tot bj.: 12/2000
Type versnellingsbak: JC5, Nieuw onderdeel, D1: 215 mm, D2: 215 mm,
801985 (clutchset partsnr)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sachs Sachs Sachs
Volvo 480
SACHS 3000 603 001 (clutch set partsnr)
Durchmesser [mm]: 215
Sachs Sachs Sachs
Renault
Modellreihe: LAGUNA (B56_, 556_)
4. Typ : 1.8 16V (B563, B564)
Baujahr : 04/1998 - 03/2001
Motorcode F4P 760
1 SACHS 3000 951 204 (clutch set partsnr)
Durchmesser [mm]: 210
Zähnezahl: 26
consists of:
3082 316 341 ( Kupplungsdruckplatte / 1 Stück ) Kenngröße: MF210
1878 076 941 ( Kupplungsscheibe / 1 Stück ) Kenngröße: 210VTPB Durchmesser [mm]: 210 Nabenprofil: 20x21,9-26N Zähnezahl: 26
3151 600 520 ( Ausrücklager / 1 Stück ) Kenngröße: KZIS-1
4200 080 060 ( Fett (Hochleistungsgleitfett) / 1 Stück )
Nur zusammen verbauen
-------------------------------------------
SACHS (ZF SRE) SACHS (ZF SRE) SACHS (ZF SRE)
1) Sachs SRE 883082 999771
clutch pressureplate (HD)
Performance Fahrgestellnummer : B563 /564
Motorcode : F4P
Durchmesser [mm]: 210
verstärkte Ausführung
Kenngröße: MF210
only in combination with 881861 999877 or 881861 999877
2) SACHS (ZF SRE) 881861 999877
Kupplungsscheibe
Performance Fahrgestellnummer : B563 /564
Motorcode : F4P
Nabenprofil: 20x21,9-26N
Zähnezahl: 26
Kenngröße: 210TPS
Durchmesser [mm]: 210
max. torque [Nm]: 350 (with 883082 999771 pressure plate)
Torsion sintered metal clutchplate
3) SACHS (ZF SRE) 881861 999862
Kupplungsscheibe
Performance Fahrgestellnummer : B563 /564
Motorcode : F4P
Nabenprofil: 20x21,9-26N
Zähnezahl: 26
Kenngröße: 210XPD
Durchmesser [mm]: 210
max. torque [Nm]: 280 (with 883082 999771 pressure plate)
(according to ZF SRE technical Service) !
Torsions organig clutchplate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the early 480 Turbo's with the 200 mm clutch, ZF SRE has some similar clutches availeble ! (check out tere webcat3 site)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Extra info:
Standard clutch (complete set with bearing)
comparrison partnumbers from different makes:
: 33448598 VOLVO
: 801307 Valeo
: 3000603001 SACHS (made by Valeo !)
: 622120000 LUK
: HK09937 DELPHI
: QKT1849AF QUINTON HAZELL
: TCK3843 TTV
-----------------------------------------------
Long post but hopefully informative.
Greetz, Mark
(and btw, got my ecu dilivered back to me from Richard Pruen on
chrismas eve, just a small box, nothing like coyote's rims, but longed for
equally much i guess.Hope next saturday will work after checking CO and adjusting MAF resistance.)
Finished fitting last saturday and went fine.
Only pressure plate needs adjusting of bore witdh of 3 the holes to fit the 3 centerpoints(?) on flywheel: bore to 8 mm, try fit on flywheel and adjust bore again when needed, very precise and equally much!
Only when fit 100%, then fit with clutchplate, tight bolts with hand, center plate and tighten, may well go up to as much as 55 NM instead of standard 21 Nm.
Pre-tension is much higher, it is a high torque, heavy duty clutch!
Locktite maybe ? ( i did not use it )
New clutchcable i did.
How i came to this;
did some (re)search on the internet(see listing), read a lot on this forum about clutches, flywheels, gearboxes like M59/JC5,maybe interchangeble parts with Renault and so on.
E-mailed ZF SRE twice, no answer, called them and i should contact a ZF SRE distributor in Holland: Again they couldn't or wouldn't tell me if this would fit a 480.Did say it being a special order with NO return possibly.
But when Valeo specifies a Renault clutch for JC5 to be a 215 mm one, then again Sachs and ZF SRE specify the same clutch as a a 210 mm for JC5, Volvo M59 and Renault JC5 are very similar gearboxes and a 480 2.0 L has a 210 mm clutch and usus the same flywheel as late Turbo's,
i went for it.
Pro: torque and endurance.
Con: price = euro 600
I used the SRE 999771 pressureplate with the 999877 sintered torsion clutch disc.( max 70 Nm plus over organic plate 999862)
Listing:
Important: ONLY for:
Volvo 480 from vin .......567600 and on (late turbo with originally 215 mm clutch)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VALEO VALEO VALEO
Volvo 480
801307 (clutch set partsnr)
Vanaf bj.: 04/1988 Tot bj.: 07/1995
Vanaf chassisnr.: 567600
Type versnellingsbak: M59.
VALEO VALEO VALEO
Renault Renault
LAGUNA (B56_, 556_)
1.8 16V (B563, B564)
Motorcodes F4P 760
Vanaf bj.: 09/1998 Tot bj.: 12/2000
Type versnellingsbak: JC5, Nieuw onderdeel, D1: 215 mm, D2: 215 mm,
801985 (clutchset partsnr)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sachs Sachs Sachs
Volvo 480
SACHS 3000 603 001 (clutch set partsnr)
Durchmesser [mm]: 215
Sachs Sachs Sachs
Renault
Modellreihe: LAGUNA (B56_, 556_)
4. Typ : 1.8 16V (B563, B564)
Baujahr : 04/1998 - 03/2001
Motorcode F4P 760
1 SACHS 3000 951 204 (clutch set partsnr)
Durchmesser [mm]: 210
Zähnezahl: 26
consists of:
3082 316 341 ( Kupplungsdruckplatte / 1 Stück ) Kenngröße: MF210
1878 076 941 ( Kupplungsscheibe / 1 Stück ) Kenngröße: 210VTPB Durchmesser [mm]: 210 Nabenprofil: 20x21,9-26N Zähnezahl: 26
3151 600 520 ( Ausrücklager / 1 Stück ) Kenngröße: KZIS-1
4200 080 060 ( Fett (Hochleistungsgleitfett) / 1 Stück )
Nur zusammen verbauen
-------------------------------------------
SACHS (ZF SRE) SACHS (ZF SRE) SACHS (ZF SRE)
1) Sachs SRE 883082 999771
clutch pressureplate (HD)
Performance Fahrgestellnummer : B563 /564
Motorcode : F4P
Durchmesser [mm]: 210
verstärkte Ausführung
Kenngröße: MF210
only in combination with 881861 999877 or 881861 999877
2) SACHS (ZF SRE) 881861 999877
Kupplungsscheibe
Performance Fahrgestellnummer : B563 /564
Motorcode : F4P
Nabenprofil: 20x21,9-26N
Zähnezahl: 26
Kenngröße: 210TPS
Durchmesser [mm]: 210
max. torque [Nm]: 350 (with 883082 999771 pressure plate)
Torsion sintered metal clutchplate
3) SACHS (ZF SRE) 881861 999862
Kupplungsscheibe
Performance Fahrgestellnummer : B563 /564
Motorcode : F4P
Nabenprofil: 20x21,9-26N
Zähnezahl: 26
Kenngröße: 210XPD
Durchmesser [mm]: 210
max. torque [Nm]: 280 (with 883082 999771 pressure plate)
(according to ZF SRE technical Service) !
Torsions organig clutchplate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the early 480 Turbo's with the 200 mm clutch, ZF SRE has some similar clutches availeble ! (check out tere webcat3 site)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Extra info:
Standard clutch (complete set with bearing)
comparrison partnumbers from different makes:
: 33448598 VOLVO
: 801307 Valeo
: 3000603001 SACHS (made by Valeo !)
: 622120000 LUK
: HK09937 DELPHI
: QKT1849AF QUINTON HAZELL
: TCK3843 TTV
-----------------------------------------------
Long post but hopefully informative.
Greetz, Mark