That's what I call a special 480 engine

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:14 pm

Richards engine really is a super mod! Done with help from Chris1roll and MrEd somewhere in Somerset.

guitarcarfanatic · Post by **guitarcarfanatic** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:28 pm

Is it back out again?!

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:38 pm

it's been out for months and months and maybe even more months lol.

it's a massive project they been doing.

guitarcarfanatic · Post by **guitarcarfanatic** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:29 pm

Yeh I know. Seen it in various stages of build it's just I was up a couple weeks ago and it was back in the car! Apparently it's been in and out quite a bit though!

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:30 pm

Awww I see, Yes Rich said it's been in for mounting it so I guess that's when.

tobi480turbo · Post by **tobi480turbo** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:47 pm

Hi,

Yes thatÂ´s how an engine has to look like

everything nicely done and reworked and not to forget the supercharger and the very laaaarge turbo

Cheers

hjkort · Post by **hjkort** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:39 am

My GOD!

What kind of boost does he want?
Looks like he's going to need 2 injectors per cilinder
Forged rods?
Forged pistons?
Forged crank?

Or are you trying to see how far and how fast this engine can spit out the pistons?

Hope all is going to work though... LOL

tobi480turbo · Post by **tobi480turbo** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:46 am

Hi,

as far as I know does he want to run the engine with 2.5 to 3 bar of boost pressure, the pistons are ceramic coated to withstand the thermal exposure, in fact of the rods and the crank I donÂ´t know exactly if theyÂ´re forged but the rods are balanced and new bearings are fitted.

Cheers

Tobi

hjkort · Post by **hjkort** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:53 am

Seems a proper job then...

piper1st · Post by **piper1st** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:38 am

if the engine is black ... how do you know if you get an oil leak?

only kiddin'!!

hjkort · Post by **hjkort** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:55 am

just use fluorescent oil, duh!

tobi480turbo · Post by **tobi480turbo** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:17 pm

hjkort wrote:Seems a proper job then...

Yes for sure this is a proper done job ... and also seems like very time consuming

Cheers

Murf · Post by **Murf** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:00 pm

i was speaking to Rich on the phone last week and he was telling me about this, the amount of power he's expecting from it is nothing short of phenomenal!!!

VanDerGraaf · Post by **VanDerGraaf** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:58 pm

Yeah, I second that- although frightening is another word that comes to mind!

380bhp- that's the most pessimistic estimate!!!

Oh, and thanks for your help Richard on my questions today.

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:02 pm

piper1st wrote:if the engine is black ... how do you know if you get an oil leak?

only kiddin'!!

Well the huge underbonnet fire should be a dead giveaway.

It won't leak for a while, all the seals are new, everything refurbished, and with a much bigger crankcase breather system.

Being truthfull anything that is going to go wrong is going to be explosive, and easily detected.

Richard

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:19 pm

hjkort wrote:My GOD!

What kind of boost does he want?

Only about 2.5 to 3 bar.

hjkort wrote: Looks like he's going to need 2 injectors per cilinder

No I have some deforming disc type injectors, rated at 760cc/min at 3 bar. They open and close about three times the speed of the standard injectors, so it shouldn't be a problem.

hjkort wrote: Forged rods?
Forged pistons?
Forged crank?

Pistons are forged as std, and reworked to lower the compression. They are then ceramic coated to increase the sterength, and also provide a heat barrier.

The crank and rods where tested by a mech eng firm, and are strong enough, as long as there isn't repeated heavy detonation (would bugger the rest of the engine as well). The head is also ceramic coated, so as to reduce the heat load on the cooling system, as well as resist high temperatures / moderate detonation.

hjkort wrote: Or are you trying to see how far and how fast this engine can spit out the pistons?

Hope all is going to work though... LOL

That is always a possibility, I hope it works too. If not then I may as well have poured massive ammounts of money into a hole, and set it on fire.

And yes before anyone says, I know it could all go horribly wrong. I'm ready for that to happen, though I may not be happy about it if it does. I'm not silly enough to ignore the possibility.

Richard

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:26 pm

VanDerGraaf wrote:Yeah, I second that- although frightening is another word that comes to mind!

380bhp- that's the most pessimistic estimate!!!

Oh, and thanks for your help Richard on my questions today.

It's going to take a while to get that power, the ECU needs to be re-mapped, and that's going to be done slowly, and with care. I have the basics for up to 2 bar ish. From there it's going to take plenty of time, so that I don't damage the engine.

No problem with the questions. Glad to help out

Richard

Murf · Post by **Murf** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:50 pm

And yes before anyone says, I know it could all go horribly wrong. I'm ready for that to happen, though I may not be happy about it if it does. I'm not silly enough to ignore the possibility.

But if you dont try, you'll never know what could have been!!
I know where your at, ive spent circa Â£4.5k on a 20 year old toyota ive never even driven! Pick it up tomorrow so i guess i'll find out then!!
Good luck

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:25 pm

Murf wrote: But if you dont try, you'll never know what could have been!!
I know where your at, ive spent circa Â£4.5k on a 20 year old toyota ive never even driven! Pick it up tomorrow so i guess i'll find out then!!
Good luck

I'm not saying how much, but the pipework to connect the turbo and all the other bits together is over 1k.

Some over engeneering has also gone into the project, but that should act as insurance for minor mishaps. The thing is to not get too adicted to turning the boost up and blow the whole thing to bits. It needs to be done slowly in managable steps. That may be something I need to watch out for

I'll hapily share the details with anyone who wants to duplicate the project, but my initial advise would be don't.

Richard

tobi480turbo · Post by **tobi480turbo** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:28 pm

Hi,

nice to see you back again here

hope everything is about to work out fine with this "insane" engine

Cheers

Tobi