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How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:59 pm
by MisterH
So I have now successfully completed this operation, I will now write this so others can benefit from it.

Those who try to remove the nozzle will find that it cannot be simply pulled out and replaced, it is a rather more complex process.

Step 1: remove the C-Pillar trim

On first inspection this is a very solid piece of 480 trim, in order to remove it one has to look for the two brass coloured C-clips that hold it in place. These can be found hiding underneath the boot seal.
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Now one can choose to be 'brutal' with them and eventually the piece will come out, but that runs the risk of snapping stuff. As I didn't quite know what I was doing, I loosened the rear wheel/seat belt trim that includes the storage bins, allowing me to pry the window side of the C-Pillar trim out with a screwdriver, it should just pop out gently.

For the C-Clips in the boot seal, just gently push them with a flathead and again the piece should pop out. Again you could be brutal but I can't recommend it

you should now see the exposed pillar:
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Step 2: Undoing the nut
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This sounds simple, but is more difficult than it sounds. The nut is located in a position which means that it cannot be got at by a spanner at all, or a ratchet easily. If you remove the water hose first, then a ratchet might do the job, however, I used a pair of pliers to slowly spin the nut until it came out. Be very careful at this stage as the nut can all to easily fall into the depths of the C-pillar, and I doubt many people want to structurally compromise their car in the name of a nut :crazy:.


Step 3: Replacing the Nozzle

Perhaps the simplest part of the job is slotting the new nozzle unit into the hole. The nut can be seen to be difficult to replace so it is vital that the nut is placed onto the thread, but with the water hose attached behind it so it cannot fall off before you tighten it. The tightening can only be done with pliers unless you have a special tool the existence of which I am unaware of.
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Step 4: Refitting the trim
"Refit is the reverse of removal" - St Haynes, Patron of lies and Misery

This is actually fairly straightforward, if you are well versed in 480 trim you shouldn't be phased. The C-Pillar trim just slots and clips in, and if you did loosen the seat belt/boot trim, then replace the screws as necessary.

One of the cases where that old saying does ring true


Conclusion

The first job I have carried out and completed unassisted physically, and I must say I am quite proud (I am probably blissfully unaware).

It is a fairly simple job, but the nut is in a really awkward position and so that is definitely a curveball

Many thanks to all who advised me before I set out

I hope this helps someone one day, please let me know if there is anything I have missed or if there is a better way of doing things

Good Day!
Ben

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:39 pm
by doingitsideways
Nice write up.

Only thing I'd add is that in situations similar to that, where I know it's fairly likely I'm going to lose a nut somewhere, but only possible to get one finger in, I've always found it useful to wind the nut to nearly off and used a lump pf blu tack on the end of my finger to keep hold of it.
Useful for refitting too.

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:08 pm
by Alan 480
C pillar trim on mine is with 'one way' plastic clips that sit in the two circular holes, so over the years things have changed?

I think also same metod of attachment on the 93 & 95 versions??

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:42 pm
by MisterH
doingitsideways wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:39 pm
Nice write up.

Only thing I'd add is that in situations similar to that, where I know it's fairly likely I'm going to lose a nut somewhere, but only possible to get one finger in, I've always found it useful to wind the nut to nearly off and used a lump pf blu tack on the end of my finger to keep hold of it.
Useful for refitting too.
That's brilliant, shall try and remember that for next time

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:44 pm
by dragonflyjewels
On the subject of losing the nut down inside, I'd stuff a good sized rag in to form a bung for the nut to land on.

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:00 am
by MisterH
Alan 480 wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:08 pm
C pillar trim on mine is with 'one way' plastic clips that sit in the two circular holes, so over the years things have changed?

I think also same metod of attachment on the 93 & 95 versions??
I did spot some of those in the middle of my one, but was unsure of their purpose, so they will require you to lever the trim piece out with a screwdriver

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:35 pm
by Van
dragonflyjewels wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:44 pm
On the subject of losing the nut down inside, I'd stuff a good sized rag in to form a bung for the nut to land on.
That is really clever. A sponge also will do.

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:38 am
by Sebo
Hi everyone!
I've been using the french 480 forum for ages (since 2014), but first time on yours!
Didn't find the presentation page, sorry. Hope you won't kick me out too fast :)

My name is Sebastien, 46yo, Aeronautical Engineer in commercial aircraft cabin modification, and I hope soon airline pilot.
My 480 is a black Turbo 1989.

I'm looking for a rear washer nozzle since mine is broken, and found your topic.
Would any of you have spares available, or any remanufactured 3D printed solutions?
Thanks for your help!

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:43 pm
by MisterH
Salut Sebastian!
Sebo wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:38 am
Hi everyone!
I've been using the french 480 forum for ages (since 2014), but first time on yours!
Didn't find the presentation page, sorry. Hope you won't kick me out too fast :)

My name is Sebastien, 46yo, Aeronautical Engineer in commercial aircraft cabin modification, and I hope soon airline pilot.
My 480 is a black Turbo 1989.

I'm looking for a rear washer nozzle since mine is broken, and found your topic.
Would any of you have spares available, or any remanufactured 3D printed solutions?
Thanks for your help!
I do remember seeing someone post talking about remanufacturing parts but I cannot remember if it was here or on Facebook. @jifflemon will likely know

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:55 pm
by Sebo
Ok thanks for your reply!
By the time I found a used one, but will try a repair procedure using a metal tube to replace the broken part.
Will let you know!

Re: How to replace the rear washer nozzle - The Guide

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:15 pm
by Sebo
Hi everyone!
As promised, if like me your rear washer nozzle is broken :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FvXuf5 ... sp=sharing

and you don't have any replacement part, here is a repair procedure.

Find an aluminium tube, 3mm diameter and remove the broken part from the nozzle :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H1zrfE ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SNv61m ... drive_link

Drill the broken plastic tube with a 3mm drill bit to enlarge the hole :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dThV-X ... drive_link

Insert and glue the aluminium tube in the drilled plastic tube :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rb20yD ... drive_link

Drill the base hole on the car pillar, same diameter on about 4-5mm depth :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hHKo69 ... drive_link
Spray a bit of washer fluid to evacuate any debris which may clogg the nozzle.

Cut extra aluminium tube to keep about 4-5mm on the reworked broken tube, and insert in the reworked hole. Be careful as the plastic tube has a flat area, which must be positionned outboard of the car (Right Hand side).
Flat shown in incorrect position :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JsbOYm ... drive_link
Correct position (flat not visible) :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/117E2X0 ... drive_link

I fisrt wanted to position it correctly before gluing it, but as it was tight enought, I decided not to glue it.
Depending on your situation, you might require to use glue to avoid any leakage. Just keep that in mind before doing so, as you might not be able to adjust the spray nozle direction if uncorrectly glued...

Reinstall the nozzle base (unfortunately, I lost mine), then the triangular nozzle, make sure you have no leakage on the nozzle base, and enjoy!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WJTyzH ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X1DA89 ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GjBn9S ... drive_link