JT's Engine Swap Project.

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:42 pm

JohnTurbo wrote:Found the plug for the charcoal canister.

The Turbo has a different set of valves on the canister. If you use the ES canister, then the turbo will try to pressurise the fuel tank!

As far as I remember from disconnecting the pipes from mine today, the turbo doesn't have any electrical connection to the canister either. On the ES it's just a valve that opens to purge the canister while the engine is running. Since the ES only have vaccum in the manifold, that's ok. With a Turbo, the manifold pressure will go back to the canister, and maybe pressurise the fuel tank. That could be very nasty if it happens!

Richard

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:54 pm

Yes, i'd figured that out to some extent. Whats the best way to remove it from the loop? Obviously it needs to look plugged in!

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:11 pm

JohnTurbo wrote:Yes, i'd figured that out to some extent. Whats the best way to remove it from the loop? Obviously it needs to look plugged in!

My guess would be....

Plug all the pipes at the manifold end (but leave connected), and make a hole in the big vent tube that comes from the tank so it can vent.

Richard

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:31 pm

Did I miss something?

I removed mine well over a year ago and just plugged the pipes. Are you saying one of those pipes goes to the fuel tank?

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:42 pm

martinholmesuk wrote:Did I miss something?

I removed mine well over a year ago and just plugged the pipes. Are you saying one of those pipes goes to the fuel tank?

Yep the big-ish pipe that goes under the driverside wheel arch is the vent from the fuel tank. Best not to plug that one.

Someone (who I won't name) did this to one car, and now the fuel tank is a funny shape because of the vaccum that built up inside it.

Richard

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:24 pm

haha, i'd been running it with the filler cap loose till i gave it some thought. Otherwise it goes shhhhhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:49 pm

I think I cut that one and left it open. I plugged the others.

bugger i'll have to check that

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:34 pm

martinholmesuk wrote:I think I cut that one and left it open. I plugged the others.

bugger i'll have to check that

I think you would notice the huge vaccum in the tank when you tried to fill up with fuel if it was plugged.

If you did plug it, then you have got some additional unwanteded ventilation (a leak).

Richard

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:38 pm

Went to my friendly local volvo dealer, since i couldn't get hold of the Millers stuff. As you know, you can't just put any old oil into a post 89 gearbox without rotting the bronze components. That said...i thought Â£47 a bit harsh!!!!!

Some more connecting up, and routing of wiring. Then wheels on. Had a drive up and down inside the garage...yes, not very exciting, but it feels lovely. Like new. God bless clutch spline grease.

Started work on the auxilliary turbo bits and pieces. I have all the trim, the lot. Still not done fuel pump.

Dan the 480 Man · Post by **Dan the 480 Man** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:43 pm

I hope you're going to get some new heater knobs JT?

Excellent project-glad to see you've had it up and running! Man, i need a goddamn project car-i'm jealous!

Good work!

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:17 pm

Thanks for your kind comments Dan. The heater knobs will be sorted, though i tend to just pain them black. Unsure about the grey ones.

Todays fun mainly envolved ripping my interior out to change the fuel pump...

spot the difference....

- Thats right, it seems 2.0 have the same one as the Turbo. I was damned annoyed!!

Other than that, tweaked the gear linkage, and put the bonnet back.

Couple more pics of the wheels which are eventually going on the black one.

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:40 pm

Still chugging on in my spare time...less fun now its got cold though!!

Interior is back in, half way through sorting back brakes. New leads,plugs, dizzy cap.

Idles still a bit choppy...

Trying a pressure test...

The car...

terrastudios · Post by **terrastudios** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:28 am

You paid a lot for the gearbox oil JT! What I find strange is if you look in any ren 19 handbook (which has the same gearboxes!) they give you the gear oil recommended - can't remember the exact type off the top of my head - but its a pretty standard one. Yet look in volvo stuff, and its buy "volvo" gear oil!

hjkort · Post by **hjkort** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:14 am

75W-80

terrastudios · Post by **terrastudios** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:29 am

hjkort wrote:75W-80

merci beaucoup!

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:48 pm

Pre-89 boxes yes, but DO NOT put random crap in post 89 boxes. It rots your bronze components. Ask castrol if you don't believe me!

its volvo or millers trx only!

Brasco · Post by **Brasco** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:03 pm

JohnTurbo wrote:Pre-89 boxes yes, but DO NOT put random crap in post 89 boxes. It rots your bronze components. Ask castrol if you don't believe me!

its volvo or millers trx only!

Hmmm... not what the guys at Drayton told me... good job someone did write my car off, because it sounds like I was in for some gearbox problems.

terrastudios · Post by **terrastudios** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:15 pm

JohnTurbo wrote:Pre-89 boxes yes, but DO NOT put random crap in post 89 boxes. It rots your bronze components. Ask castrol if you don't believe me!

its volvo or millers trx only!

it just puzzles me why the renaults don't have this problem! not disagreeing/arguing with ya matey if thats what they said, then its probably true!

hjkort · Post by **hjkort** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:22 pm

Volvo also uses 75w-80.

Just take a note of the specs on the bottom or back of the cannisters:

Volvo 97307 = API: GL-4

Volvo 3345 / 534-6 = API: GL-5

recommended for the renault/psa/volvo transmission: 75w-80 API GL-5

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:08 pm

I can only go off what i have told you, but i've talked to the castrol rep, and he told me they do not sell an oil that is suitable. It also says so in haynes. If you search for "gearbox AND oil" you'll find a thread where a forum member was told the same by millers, with the exception that their premium trx gearoil contains additives which stop bronze rotting...he also got this information out of a volvo dealer's parts manager by citing consumer rights.

It could still be lies, but the way i see it theres a lot of M60 gearboxes dieing, and this could be one possible explanation.

Here you go...

http://volvo480.dragons.org.uk/forum/vi ... il+millers