Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by brinkie » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:37 am

How did you get the washer bottle out and how did you clean it? I have to replace mine with one that accepts the headlight washer pump (and subsequently fit headlight washer jets), but I'm struggling to get the old (smaller) one out.
Could start with giving the bigger washer bottle a clean :)
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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by jifflemon » Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:15 pm

to clean them, I use a variety of degreasers on the outside, along with steam to scrub off.
Insides are cleaned with washing up liquid and super hot water!

Removal?

Powersteering pump out of the way, slide out the expansion tank, push out of the way, then remove the washer bottle. If the headlamp washer pump is fitted, it's easier to remove that before trying to remove the bottle

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by edie_fox » Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:12 am

"This coal won't clean itself"

I think Jeff has posted many before photos but I took a couple to add:

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Nola was ready to assist:

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Toothbrush in the Vesas, clay bar, Meguiar's 3-stage machine polish and Vista Concept plastics conditioner.

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Fox came out for 30 seconds to wipe some water from the roof:

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Then, a lovely shiny GT.

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by dcwalker » Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:55 am

Looking lovely, well done all :D

Not sure I go for the bumper-less look though ;)

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by jamescarruthers » Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:22 am

Wow, what a transformation! Well done you three!

Does that robot have enough charge to get on the ferry to The Netherlands for parts collection?
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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by MisterH » Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:27 am

jamescarruthers wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:22 am
Wow, what a transformation! Well done you three!

Does that robot have enough charge to get on the ferry to The Netherlands for parts collection?
even if it did it would still have to quarantine probably :lol:
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Fix Central Locking
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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by MisterH » Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:28 am

You two certainly make a great team, R6 is already looking well on the way to recovery :D
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Fix Central Locking
Fix drivers side speaker
Annoying Scratching Squeak
Water leaks
Complete Front O/S rebuild

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by Martin63 » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:37 am

edie_fox wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:12 am
"This coal won't clean itself"

I think Jeff has posted many before photos but I took a couple to add:

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Nola was ready to assist:

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Toothbrush in the Vesas, clay bar, Meguiar's 3-stage machine polish and Vista Concept plastics conditioner.

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Fox came out for 30 seconds to wipe some water from the roof:

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Then, a lovely shiny GT.

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Wow!!!! That's come up remarkably well. Superb work everyone!
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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by jifflemon » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:56 pm

Another little update....The pictures really do flatter the car, an absolute credit to Edies hard work but remember, they're just pictures.

I could show amazing ones like this:

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Or remind everyone, that there are limits to what can be achieved.

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Why was the front bumper off during the polishing? Well, because it's beyond saving...

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Ultimately, like the majority of 480's out there, R6 could do with a full paint if you're going for a near perfect 480 - Thankfully, this is a rescue, not a restore!

So.... onwards we go! The leather had been giving a thorough cleaning with Gliptone gentle leather cleaner, and then given a light dosing of condition every 48 hours. It takes time for leather to recover when it's been neglected, so whilst that was happening, I turned my attention to other things that could be done whilst the interior was out.

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This lovely reconditioned aerial should have been going onto Henry, but the universal one that was fitted was just god damn awful and had to go. I'll find another one for Henry I'm sure.

Equally, as nobody had yet donated a window motor, I grabbed one from eBay and threw it in.

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and with exposed cavities, I'm not going to miss an opportunity to dose in good old S50 cavity wax!

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Doors, sills and quarters all got a soaking!

what else? Dashboard service was required so....

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Honesty couldn't leave the back half like that either....

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and there was this:

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Hopefully you've all spotted the awful gorilla glue spilage, but who else spotted the cracked vent? I did what I could!

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then it was refit the repaired rear section

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and the freshly serviced dashboard - No surprise, it needed a speedo cog and the usual soldering.

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and then it was about time to refit the now much recovered (but still not perfect) interior

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by cranna21 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:24 am

i'll check condition of my spare GT front bumper (i know the splitter is well, split and the fogs are well, buggered) but id happily swap bumper for bumper if you want to keep the fogs from this one - it'll be "better" and saves the expense of paint, i just like having a spare but the colour means nothing to me!

of course I'm fair treck away...
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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by jifflemon » Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:48 am

Far away or small? :rofl:

Postage for just the skin wouldn’t be horrendous, or perhaps we can get a bumper relay going on.

Fingers crossed it’s in serviceable condition, this ones toast.

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by cranna21 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:51 am

its definitely better! haha
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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by JohnO » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:59 pm

I'm sure we could get a relay going!
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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by dcwalker » Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:36 am

If we can get it to me near York, I'll do the last leg to Milton Keynes :D

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by edie_fox » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:54 am

Looks great now the interior is all cleaned and tidy back in place. 🙂
I had a look in Mole (County Stores) last week, (your nearest is Buckingham) definitely worth a browse of all the leather cleaners and conditioners available in tack shops/country stores though. They can really deeply condition and I bet they are half the price of some specific auto stuff!

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by jifflemon » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:54 am

So, we have an interior in, lets do some more essentials for getting to the MOT station:

Those rear lights are never going to pass a test....

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So it's break out the hairdryer time....

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to do battle with the Butyl....

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Phew!

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As we've not had anyone donate a set of lights yet, I've once again robbed Peter to pay Paul....

fresh new seals...

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Much nicer

Also forogt to mention I've tried a bit of wiring loom protection

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we'll see how this works out long term I guess...

So, lets turn our attention to the front. One of the problems I encouted when removing the front end was this:

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Why oh why when a pop up fails does it have to be the OS? and why couldn't it have failed when I had all the washer bottle out earlier???

On the late model cars, this makes things "fun"

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The carbon canister is bolted through the popup bracket with 2 bolts that have to be removed so you can push the bracket over to give you clearance to remove the motor

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So Yay! Replacement pop up stolen from one of my cars (yes, more robbing of Peter to pay Paul!) an we have a working Popup! Plus you can possibly see what's going to happen next...

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If you didn't know already, the front bumper supports can rust almost as quickly as the rears

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So a quick dose of Vactan

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and.....

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Yes.... the colour is a tad "off". But MOT don't care about colour (but sharp edges, from body damage, can fail!).

And with a number plate plaque from James, it's almost complete

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by jifflemon » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:04 am

So, now we stand a chance of getting to the MOT station, it's time to deal with the other bits and peices....

Timing belt and drive belts first:

Covers off:

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Marks found

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and crank pinned

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Old belt removed.....

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Tensioner and idler were well passed their best!

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Hmmmmmm Shiney new!

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and you didn't *really* expect me to put that filthy cover back on did you?

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Also checked the cap and rotor - Both overdue a change:

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but luckily I keep this stuff in stock now!

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At the front end, the only concerning part were the front droplinks - So threw a set on. (and forgot to take a picture!)

May as well finish it all off with some nice new wipers and washer fluid:

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Off to the rear, and I'm sure you'll NOT be surprised to learn it needed a set of rear shocks....

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So on went some new ones:

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Was also pleasing to discover the car had been a recent(ish) recipient of front and rear pads and discs, along with new rear calipers!

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In a wave of utter excitement at this discovery, I threw it in for an MOT!

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Ah...... :wall:

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by MisterH » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:55 am

...bugger

Well as I am sure you agree an MOT fail is a very useful thing, so not all bad

Also thank you for enlightening me to what size the rear wiper blades are, Halfords checker is bloody useless, and only gives me aeroblades (granted I wanted one of those for the back, but it would go under the fairing)
Current Jobs to do (23/1/22):
Fix Central Locking
Fix drivers side speaker
Annoying Scratching Squeak
Water leaks
Complete Front O/S rebuild

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by jifflemon » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:55 pm

Obviously, to have been through an MOT there's a couple of bits that haven't been mentioned

The number plates (as awful as they are) have been re-used, but also I had to permenantly steal a set of front lights (meant for me) to use. They're certainly not the best, but obviously better than the ones on the car!

So.... The fail sheet

Parking brake: Rule#1. Never trust anyones else's work....

This should have been the give away:

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So, pair of handbrake cables, and a big clean up and reset called for! Break out the hot spanner to remove the caliper brackets!

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and break out the rust convertor

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Clean up and lube the sliders

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And repeat.....

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throw away the handbrake cables....

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before fitting shiny new ones...

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And clean the exhaust heatshield before refitting because your sad...

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then reset everything. I've done a how to, as well as covering it in my Turbo thread, but essentially, you wind the caliper back using a tool to push the piston whilst winding the adjuster back. Slacken the handbrake cable completely off.
Then, jump on the brake pedal repeatedly. Then start the engine and jump on the pedal some more. Then, and ONLY then, wind the adjuster screw in until the brake is grabbing very slightly. Then adjust the handbrake cable.

For good measure I rechecked the front brakes and swapped out the sliders for new ones....

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before bleeding the entire system with fresh fluid

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Next up: Emisions. If you look at the results:

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the bit that grabbed my attention was that the lambda reading iteself was high. That's a sure sign of extra air being pulled in. There was a small leak at the rear pipe join, however, on sealing that up, it became more apparent that there was a hole in the back box, possibly underneath the heatshield on the box, as I could hear the leak, but not see it.

Now whilst exhaust gas is being blown OUT of a hole, air is also being sucked in through holes, so you get get an artificial result, that has MORE air than CO/HC, throwing your lambda value out.

So.... New exhaust section!

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Its terrible important to align the exhaust - they don't "just" fit. On a ramp you'd have a nice jacking pole to support the pipe so you can hang it properly. On the ground, you improvise!

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and a pair of new hangers as the old ones were passed their best....

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So, now we're gas tight, some standard service items (filters and plugs) were thrown into the mix.

Seat Belts: This had me perplexed..

When all the interior was out, I'd pulled both belts out to give them a clean. And yet now, both belts were absolutely locked solid in place.

Thankfully, I mentioned it to Sylvia who replied back

"I bet they've used the wrong screws in the roller blind fixings"

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Apparently Al had done something similar on her car!

Headlamp aim was as simple as waiting for darkness and align using the NS as reference. Top tip; ALWAYS make sure your adjuster screws are free, because as long as they are, your MOT station would probably adjust the headlamps if they were out.

Position lamp? Clean up the bulb holders, and light shall return!

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Re: Rescue car: R6 - our first GT

Post by Jay-Kay-Em » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:36 pm

A genuine Renault timing belt eh? Sweepstake for the age of that!

Yet again I have fuel tank heat shield envy. Why was mine so bad :dunno:

Excellent work as always Jeff and good luck for a re-test.
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