Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

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Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:54 am

Hello fellow 400 enthusiasts.
Your site has been invaluable in my quest to resurrect a 480 that I acquired last summer - so I thought it was high-time I contributed, or at the very least shared details of the machine in question.

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by jifflemon » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:39 pm

Ooof! Looks a beauty! Love a green 480.

More details!!!!

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by dcwalker » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:55 pm

Definitely need more details and pictures please :D

And about the 440 (or is it a 460?) lurking in the background too!

David
Current: 1994 480 GT plus 2013 V60 D5 SE Lux Nav & 1997 440LE with lots of optional extras
Previous: Celebration 331 (re-homed with Richard S), Celebration 467 (returned to Martin Mc); Celebration 346 (re-homed with Alan480); Celebration 269 (scrapped abandoned project), Celebration 73 (sold on after 6 years), 1992 ES, 1988 ES - and numerous other non-480 Volvos!

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by dragonflyjewels » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:15 pm

Hi Rob.
Welcome to our happy band ! You have already found out we can help with sorting problems, hopefully you also know we 'normally' have regular meetings and I expect you've seen the proposals for this year. If you can join us please do, it's so nice to be able to chat in person. Your ES looks a beauty, well done for resurrecting it. Of course we'd like to see it in the metal but the 440 would also be very welcome.
Sylvia

Snazzy - 1993 Paris Blue ES red dipstick 2.0i bought 2001
Lethal Lily - 1991 White Turbo
Paris the Unicorn - 1991 Paris Edition
hubby has
Sven - 1994 Racing Green GT
Evil Eva - 1992 Paris Blue Turbo

no previous 480s - can't bear to sell any

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Martin Mc » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:34 pm

Hello Rob,

Nice to see a new contributor on the site & congratulations on the resurrection :D

What did it entail, if you don't mind being asked? Any hiccups, highlights or hoohah you'd care to share would be most gratefully consumed by your fellow wedgies.

Also, where are you based, for logistics and planning purposes for Sylvia & the crew :wink:

Best !

Martin
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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by MisterH » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:07 pm

Hi Rob, glad to have you here with us, you might recognise a certain name...

Glad I could help you out with the registration process, the Dutch main site is a bit of a black art to navigate :lol:
Current Jobs to do (23/1/22):
Fix Central Locking
Fix drivers side speaker
Annoying Scratching Squeak
Water leaks
Complete Front O/S rebuild

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:52 am

Hello and thanks for the interest :D
I got persuaded to join after some recruitment from the Beige forum. I'm really enjoying this 480 and I'm keen to do some 480 (or 440!) meets, so it was a no brainer to come along. I run a few different cars so I rarely delve into the single make forums, but to iterate the above, this place has been a great one-stop-resource for any issue I've had/am having, so it's a pleasure to share my car stories with you and be part of this community.

I guess it all starts in 1994 when my Nan bought a brand new 440, the one in the photo. It's been in our family since new and for the last seven years or so I've been the current "custodian".

When my Nan bought the 440 M_CEC back in '94, I'd always wished she'd bought a 480, and now I'm living that dream. I've wanted one for a while, but finding the right running worst-of-breed example has been a slow burn and only getting more difficult year by year. There's plenty to do on it and I have a couple of trips planned for this unique little Swede (or Dutchman, or whatever it identifies as).

M_AAF ticked all the boxes highlighted in buyers guides - leaks, only one pop-up, rusty arches/wheel wells/ lead in to boot floor, electrical issues galore, no ODO and every interior trim piece is trying to escape the car. I'm a hopeless optimist when it comes to cars, so obviously I bought it and rationalised it as saving something that otherwise would have probably not been with us much longer.

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I’ve made improvements to M_AFF in the last few months that I’ll share here soon – but as it’s a nice sunny Friday afternoon, I think I’ll take the 480 out on the Essex country roads.
[Edit: 403 Forbidden when I tried to post originally – seems to work now though!]

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:52 am

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by jamescarruthers » Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:17 am

Hopeless 480 optimists welcome!
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by jifflemon » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:24 am

Rob88h wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:52 am
M_AAF ticked all the boxes highlighted in buyers guides - leaks, only one pop-up, rusty arches/wheel wells/ lead in to boot floor, electrical issues galore, no ODO and every interior trim piece is trying to escape the car. I'm a hopeless optimist when it comes to cars, so obviously I bought it and rationalised it as saving something that otherwise would have probably not been with us much longer.
I think I've seen and fixed just about every "they all do that sir", as well as becoming quite adept at repairing the interior trim!

At some point you've just got to take the plunge though - work with what you've got and enjoy the ride! :D

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Martin Mc » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:48 am

It is a lovely colour :) I can see from the MOT history that she has had a couple of odometer changes along the way.. What kind of mileage do you think she has done, realistically?

How did you come to acquire the car too? Was it like the one before last for me, (a lovely Paris Blue 2.0 ES) that I spotted whilst on holiday in Northern Ireland, and ended up bringing back on the ferry as an impulse buy? (Luckily my wife understands my need for an extramarital vehicle or two :))
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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:00 pm

Martin Mc wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:48 am
It is a lovely colour :) I can see from the MOT history that she has had a couple of odometer changes along the way.. What kind of mileage do you think she has done
I have this handy chart for the mileage on M_AAF that I made using the paper MOT's and the online MOT history tool:

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It makes me think the 120,000 it's showing is about right. Mathematically it's a bit less, but that doesn't take into account any "stopped clock" time

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:10 pm

ODO is rolling again now though. I just replaced the small internal gear that had turned to a similar consistency as that of a gummy bear left behind a radiator for several months (don't ask me how I know). I've had to do this twice before on a couple of 340's I've had, so it wasn't too much of a headache, except for the fact I wasn't the first onto this binnacle and some prior numpty has soldered the PCB to the dials on the push through pins.

The new gear goes in:
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PCB removal not as simple as it should be!:
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My first recorded mile:
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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:30 pm

Martin Mc wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:48 am
How did you come to acquire the car too?
eBay spectacular. Unusually for me though I went to see it beforehand! It was in August 2020 and it was for sale in the town I'm from, but as I get carried away I was mentally committed to buying it already anyway, haha. I paid £895 and it had a few months MOT on it back then because of the 6 month Covid MOT extension thing.
It came from a driveway dealer, nice chap, who told me he acquired it from a 480 collection along with another non-running 480 there. This collector was apparently consolidating their 480's to focus financially on a 480 Turbo they had. I wonder if this collector is known here? The bills/servicing are all either Par/St.Austell, Cornwall, of Leigh-On-Sea/Southend, Essex. It seems the owner had two addresses because it's not one location then the other, they're mixed together over the same date period.
Then the other owner before that had it on a private plate YYJ 247, but M_AAF does seem to be it's original allocation and not a replacement.

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by jifflemon » Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:53 pm

Got to love it when they solder the pins..... :angry:

Did you redo all the board connections too?

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by MisterH » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:26 pm

Rob88h wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:30 pm
Martin Mc wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:48 am
How did you come to acquire the car too?
eBay spectacular. Unusually for me though I went to see it beforehand! It was in August 2020 and it was for sale in the town I'm from, but as I get carried away I was mentally committed to buying it already anyway, haha. I paid £895 and it had a few months MOT on it back then because of the 6 month Covid MOT extension thing.
It came from a driveway dealer, nice chap, who told me he acquired it from a 480 collection along with another non-running 480 there. This collector was apparently consolidating their 480's to focus financially on a 480 Turbo they had. I wonder if this collector is known here? The bills/servicing are all either Par/St.Austell, Cornwall, of Leigh-On-Sea/Southend, Essex. It seems the owner had two addresses because it's not one location then the other, they're mixed together over the same date period.
Then the other owner before that had it on a private plate YYJ 247, but M_AAF does seem to be it's original allocation and not a replacement.
I do seem to remember some talk on here about a green '94 car that was for sale with Antares Wheels (like yours), may have been your one
Current Jobs to do (23/1/22):
Fix Central Locking
Fix drivers side speaker
Annoying Scratching Squeak
Water leaks
Complete Front O/S rebuild

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by jifflemon » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:09 pm

Nope, that was the one both me and Norm were chasing (was Facebook, not eBay) and I’m in touch with it’s new owner (who’s going to town on it!)

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:44 pm

I got M_AAF August 2020 and I've done all sorts of bits and pieces up to now that I haven't detailed chronologically so far as the thread sort of organically went to the ODO repairs. The first thing I actually did was just drive and bond with the thing until the MOT expired in October 2020. :hopping:

With the 18 month MOT now expired, there were a few jobs for me to do before the welding for the new MOT. The plan was to get everything done before December in time for a short driving holiday (all things going to plan). Ha, certain pandemics ruined that.

First up, the advisories from 2019! Front and rear pads. Still being available from EuroCarParts, I should have probably done these when I first got the car… they were really bad, I’m a bit ashamed. While at it I changed the discs too, they were cheap and made the job 1000% more visually satisfying. Pagid everythings. Below is some before and after shots of front and rear:

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As ever, the right tools made this job ok: an impact driver for removing the rotor retaining screws and a piston wind-back tool for resetting the callipers. The rear o/s calliper has now been replaced also as it was bent so the pad wasn't seating flush to the rotor on braking. Kind of weird, think I have a photo somewhere.

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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:16 pm

Rob88h wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:44 pm
The rear o/s calliper has now been replaced also as it was bent so the pad wasn't seating flush to the rotor on braking. Kind of weird, think I have a photo somewhere.
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Re: Volvo 480 ES - M_AAF

Post by Rob88h » Tue May 04, 2021 9:41 am

I’m getting “403: Forbidden” when I try and post here quite often – not sure if that’s a known issue? Obviously, I never save my work so it all disappears with the page resubmission! Sad face.
I’m a bit behind posting the things I’ve done with this car here. I’m sharing it on the Beige forum too, but I’m mostly re-writing it here because you deserve more than an out of context copy and paste jobs. :D

The welding has been the biggest job that I’ve had done to M_AAF. It was also the decision point for the “not-for-profit” approach to buying this 480 and keeping it alive. I get a lot of satisfaction trying to secure a cars future for a bit longer, and I have few enough RL responsibilities meaning I can bury my head in the sand a bit when it comes to the economics of it.
M_AAF didn’t look too bad externally in the rear arch area (I do have certified low expectations), but the real issues were the ends of the sill in the rear wheel well, the rear wells themselves and the lead in to the boot floor.
Fear not though, Skandix make repair panels and the internal parts were simple enough for fabrication at my trusted garage and body shop. The external rear section of sill and rear arch lip on both sides are Skandix’s finest and the inner arches, wheel well and sill end caps are fabricated and not patched where appropriate. The bodyshop then finished it off with a stellar paint match. There are some minor imperfections here and there, but most importantly the car is strong, protected and anyway no imperfection is detectable when you’re MOT’d and blasting down a B-road!
I’ll pop my pictures in the next post to help it with my upload issues.

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