My 480 journey begins here

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Alan 480
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by Alan 480 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:45 pm

nigel poustie wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:35 pm
Next problem.....The full beam is not 'clicking-on' and staying on, they work if you hold the lever back but it won't hold on it's self, any ideas?

Also, the horn has stopped working, not checked the fuse though....


Cheers!
horns could just be a dicky connection atthe horn, be prepared for the horn 'spring' mount to be goosed, I replaced both with a nice bit of stainless from a name plate, only cos I have astack of them about playing card size :-)

does the stalk not just 'toggle' between 'main beam' & 'dip'? so long since I drove it in the dark can't mind on . .. . . :wink:

dangerous to think about it when hoppng from one car to the other, eg reverse is in three differnt places and methods of 'detent' as well :)
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by brinkie » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:09 pm

The horn is also controlled by a relay in the CEM (necessary to sound the burglar alarm). You can use the CEM self test to check if the horn relay functions. Don't do this late at night or you will "befriend" a lot of people in the close vicinity :P
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by jamescarruthers » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:14 pm

Alan 480 wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:45 pm
does the stalk not just 'toggle' between 'main beam' & 'dip'?
There are two separate ways of the ‎main beam switch working.

Latching on and toggling main beam ‎to stay on until selected off

Momentary action. With headlights up, when the momentary action is broken it isn't such a big deal as you can latch the main beams on as above. With the headlights down, the momentary action flashes the long-range lights.

It is quite common to have one function broken. I think it is a UK MOT fail if the latching one doesn't work. Annoyingly you used to be able tobuy the indicator switch from Volvo about 5 or so years ago and it wasn't expensive. ‎
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by Alan 480 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:51 am

jamescarruthers wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:14 pm
Alan 480 wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:45 pm
does the stalk not just 'toggle' between 'main beam' & 'dip'?
There are two separate ways of the ‎main beam switch working.

Latching on and toggling main beam ‎to stay on until selected off

Momentary action. With headlights up, when the momentary action is broken it isn't such a big deal as you can latch the main beams on as above. With the headlights down, the momentary action flashes the long-range lights.

It is quite common to have one function broken. I think it is a UK MOT fail if the latching one doesn't work. Annoyingly you used to be able tobuy the indicator switch from Volvo about 5 or so years ago and it wasn't expensive. ‎
just been out in the dark and on ours the transiton from 'dip' to 'main-beam' and back again is simple from pull back briefly, release and the front lights stay at whatever it is either main or dip, BUT this was with lightsUP and NOT on that silly 'dim-dim' so I reckon that the 'latching' is done by a RELAY down in the CEM ? ?? :?
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by jamescarruthers » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:02 pm

With the lights down, are you able to flash the long range lamps?
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 2.4T convertible (Olivolvo)
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by nigel poustie » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:57 pm

Yes
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by nigel poustie » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:59 pm

It just the main beam holding on for me, I'm sure it worked when I first bought it, I've not given up on it working again, since most things that have failed have sprung back to life!
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by Alan 480 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:57 pm

nigel poustie wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:59 pm
It just the main beam holding on for me, I'm sure it worked when I first bought it, I've not given up on it working again, since most things that have failed have sprung back to life!
as the 'driving lights' flash then your switch gear is OK , otherwise the signal wouldn't get to the CEM ?. ? .?

try pulling ALL the relays under the triangular cover, (one at a time to avoid confusion) clean up the spade terminals, and reinsert, you never know it might be all that it needs.

or if you have spare relays WITH THE CORRECT pin-out, try them!

wish you luck!
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by eye of ra » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:30 pm

The Aux Driving Lights (next to the DRL) are controlled by the CEM. Main Beam and Flash in the Popups are not.

Just to confirm operation. Gently pull the lever towards you and letting go Flashes the lights. If you pull a little harder towards you you will hear a click and the Main Beam Lights will stay on when released (the Dipped filament in the bulb will go out, unlike Flash which uses both filaments). To turn off pull towards you again till the click is heard then release.

If the normal Dipped Lights are working the relay for Main Beam (in the popups) is OK as it’s the same relay and the switch is your most likely problem.

Therefore if Dipped Lights are also not working its most likely the relay as Flash is a different circuit and does NOT use a relay.
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by nigel poustie » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:46 pm

Sorry only just seen these replies.
The dipped beam works, the flash works. It's just the main beam doesn't 'hold' on.
I'm guessing it's the switch.

On another note, I have solved the intermittent pop-up problem, I took the DRL bulbs out give everything a good clean and all is working perfectly now, hurray!
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by dcwalker » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:26 pm

Glad you've sorted the pop-ups - it's amazing how critical the DRLs are!

I think you are right with the switch being at fault for the light flash/main beam - I had this on my very first 480 and a new switch (and back in those days - 1993'ish - it was a new switch, from Volvo, ouch!) solved the problem. Think I have a couple of spares which you'd be welcome to try although I cannot guarantee they work properly (they should do though...).

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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by nigel poustie » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:44 am

Glad you've sorted the pop-ups - it's amazing how critical the DRLs are!

I think you are right with the switch being at fault for the light flash/main beam - I had this on my very first 480 and a new switch (and back in those days - 1993'ish - it was a new switch, from Volvo, ouch!) solved the problem. Think I have a couple of spares which you'd be welcome to try although I cannot guarantee they work properly (they should do though...).

David
That's sounds great David.
How much would you like for one?

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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by dcwalker » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:34 pm

Thanks Nigel

I am a bit wary of asking good money for something I don't positively know is in full working order. How about this - if you let me know your address I'll post it over to you; if it doesn't work, then no charge, if it does, then £10?

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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by nigel poustie » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:59 pm

That sounds amazing, thanks David! I'll Pm you my address.
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Re: My 480 journey begins here

Post by dcwalker » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:31 pm

Sent off today, Nigel - second class small packet...hope it does the trick!

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