Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by edie_fox » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:58 pm

Oooh, as pre-stainless person (but doing soon) ...what's wrong with yours? Is it just not done very well? Are there bad things about them? Did you just have the cat back? Just so I can make informed decisions when It's my turn!

Looks lovely and tidy. Deadening is definitely something I need to do to my doors. I frequently look over thinking the passenger door or window is not shut!

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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by Jay-Kay-Em » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:04 pm

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Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:31 pm

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Always enjoy an update for K5USP because your’re always guaranteed a pretty cool photo.

Like Edie, i'm intrigued about the exhaust. You sound proper hacked off with it. I'm about 80% through my stainless build. Would be interested to hear what you dislike & problems to be avoided.

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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by 100 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:43 am

MisterH wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:40 pm
Haha as a number plate enthusiast, I think the number is fine as you have managed to get the right age identifier(K) :hopping:

Odd to think that a long time ago this particular car was the first one I had the intention of getting, before it sold to flipping bangers (I believe this is the car right?)

Glad to see it is being looked after and mine isn't the only one in daily use :D
The K was purely coincidence! It is the flipping banger cars, yes, so I think I started off with a good one! (My headliner is still sagging! :lol: )
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Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:58 pm
Oooh, as pre-stainless person (but doing soon) ...what's wrong with yours? Is it just not done very well? Are there bad things about them? Did you just have the cat back? Just so I can make informed decisions when It's my turn!
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Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:04 pm
Like Edie, i'm intrigued about the exhaust. You sound proper hacked off with it. I'm about 80% through my stainless build. Would be interested to hear what you dislike & problems to be avoided.
Urgh... where to start. So my presumably standard exhaust back box started blowing quite badly (may be documented in this thread) and, in my mind, when a part needs replacing it's always an excuse for an upgrade. The stainless represents the perfect solution to mild steel exhausts that eventually rot away will need replacing again. Buy a shiny stainless and basically you are sorted forever.

Firstly, they forgot to re-fit a hanger or something so now the centre box vibrates against the bottom of the car - admittedly not a mark against the exhaust but against the fabricators/fitters.

Secondly, the booming at 70MPH is a joke - probably ear damaging if sustained for a period of time. If I increase speed up to c.90MPH then it is alleviated - very convenient... not!

Thirdly, it cost about £400, which compared to the cost of a standard part is quite a lot - especially when it doesn't meet your expectations.

Finally, generally upon hard acceleration it is just too loud.

Now, bear in mind that I specifically requested the quietest exhaust... The after sales has been crap, basically bring it back and pay for a larger back box and that might solve the problem. I then called a few other reputable stainless exhaust fabricators and they all mentioned that £400 is not enough to pay for a decent stainless and that it would like cost more like £1,000 for something that is properly refined for your specific car. I asked whether they might be able to 'amend' mine for some improvement - they all refused and said you need to start over again.

So basically, I've been put off by the place I used because they just couldn't really care less, coupled with the advice that all these fabricators operating out of sheds are awful. Their websites lure you in with promises of 'working with you to finesse the sound/volume of the exhaust', but the reality is they just cuts the existing off and chuck up something similar in size and shape with no further thought.

I dream of being able to sit at motorway speeds in the car again, without having to turn the radio on loud to alleviate the noise. Wet weather seriously worsens the situation as well!

The problem is, they wheel your car out with a fresh shiny exhaust and at idle it's basically silent compared to the holey back box that is likely to have come off the car. But the satisfaction is short lived!

The plan currently is to rip it off and put on a pattern part exhaust for a couple of hundred quid.
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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by MisterH » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:18 pm

Our WR quattro had a lovey exhaust job done by Torque Technique in Salisbury, unfortunately just found out they dissolved in December :cry:

I got my 480 exhaust off the shelf, thought it was rare at the time, but our local motor factors had one on the shelf, don't think it was that expensive
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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by edie_fox » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:29 pm

Thanks for all the info. I’ll make sure I ask all of these questions when I go! Sorry you had such a rubbish experience. :cry:

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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by Jay-Kay-Em » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:34 pm

Ditto... thanks for the write up. Sorry to hear its been grief.

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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by jifflemon » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:43 pm

Ah.... Sounds like a powerflow type franchise, where your "quality" is largely dependant on the fabricator, the boxes are "universal" and all designed as simple straight through affairs, with the only difference being size, not noise reduction or flow.

JP exhausts used to be my go to place when I was back oooop-Norf. Been going since 1974, so know a thing or two about an exhaust.
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Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:43 am
Secondly, the booming at 70MPH is a joke - probably ear damaging if sustained for a period of time. If I increase speed up to c.90MPH then it is alleviated - very convenient... not!
That's the main reason I went with a standard exhaust on mine! Noisy exhausts are great for about 5 minutes. One long journey or a 4am start will soon have you regretting your purchase.

Us turbo lot are fortunate in that the Turbo itself acts as a silencer (hence us only needing a single silencer), so a valve that diverts the flow past the single silencer for noisy moments was contemplated before I realised packaging it in the relatively tight and tortuous route the exhaust takes would be a no no.

One option you could consider - Sell the damn thing and get a standard one!

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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by 100 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:39 am

edie_fox wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:29 pm
Thanks for all the info. I’ll make sure I ask all of these questions when I go! Sorry you had such a rubbish experience. :cry:
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Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:34 pm
Ditto... thanks for the write up. Sorry to hear its been grief.
No problem at all, just please make sure you choose a place that is recommended or will at least put some effort into giving you what you want.
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Ah.... Sounds like a powerflow type franchise, where your "quality" is largely dependant on the fabricator, the boxes are "universal" and all designed as simple straight through affairs, with the only difference being size, not noise reduction or flow.

One option you could consider - Sell the damn thing and get a standard one!
Yeah, that sounds familiar - they did replace my centre box and back box but I don't think they are baffled in the same way as a 'proper' exhaust so yeah probably 'straight through' in some sense.

I might stick it on eBay once it has come off and try to get a bit of money back from it - there might be someone somewhere this would actually appeal to.
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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by dragonflyjewels » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm

I got Lily's built at Demand Engineering in Suffolk at a cost of £800. I got exactly what I asked for, discreetly interesting. The woman who runs it certainly knows all the science and how to get the sound you want. She doesnt use anything off the shelf, they even make their own back boxes. Expensive, but you get what you paid for.
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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by 100 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:36 am

dragonflyjewels wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm
I got Lily's built at Demand Engineering in Suffolk at a cost of £800. I got exactly what I asked for, discreetly interesting. The woman who runs it certainly knows all the science and how to get the sound you want. She doesnt use anything off the shelf, they even make their own back boxes. Expensive, but you get what you paid for.
How is it at speed - 70/80 mph? At this stage I just want something civilised inside the cabin with no booming - I'm not sure I can bring myself to spend a load more on another!
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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by dragonflyjewels » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:57 am

It's great, no drone or boom, perfect for a long motorway journey. As I intend to keep the car long term it was a good investment.
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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by 100 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:45 am

That's reassuring, I might look into it then, likewise I always take a long term view when changing parts.
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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by 100 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:53 am

Nothing to report other than a spring clean and a photo:

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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by MisterH » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:50 am

Looking a stunner!
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Re: Oli's 1992 Volvo 480ES Limited Edition

Post by Jay-Kay-Em » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:43 pm

Looking good... from a fellow R1100 owner :wink:

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