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Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:00 am
by eye of ra
Alan 480 wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:49 am
ref 'yellow fittings' There was one on the N/S when I went to re-fit the subframe, was unsure if there should have been one on O/S as well :-( , I'd have thought there should been two to keep subframe lined up, front is rattle fit bolts so no advantage?
I hadn’t even noticed the plastic fitting (although the rear fittings are still on the car) but just been out and checked and I only have one on the rear N/S.

Also parts manual only says one and only on Auto and Manual after 524247.

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:49 am
by Alan 480
eye of ra wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:00 am
Alan 480 wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:49 am
ref 'yellow fittings' There was one on the N/S when I went to re-fit the subframe, was unsure if there should have been one on O/S as well :-( , I'd have thought there should been two to keep subframe lined up, front is rattle fit bolts so no advantage?
I hadn’t even noticed the plastic fitting (although the rear fittings are still on the car) but just been out and checked and I only have one on the rear N/S.

Also parts manual only says one and only on Auto and Manual after 524247.
OK, saves me asking my mate to check his garage floor and/or pit for the offending object.

I spent ruddy ages on last Saturday 'trying' to get a thin sleeve pushed up the O/S, and bolt wasn't very central so brute force required :-)

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:17 pm
by jamescarruthers
Stripped down and head sent away to local specialist as I figured this will hopefully not be out ever again. That way the valve clearances will be right (even though it is the sweetest sounding 1.7 I can ever remember having) and I'll get the valve stem seals done too, just as a precaution. 

Block will get painted which should leave the engine bay looking great when it eventually all goes back in. ‎

All the core plugs are knackered and one had completely rusted out years ago but was behind the inlet/outlet manifold gasket and that is all that was keeping the coolant in.‎

I'm going to switch to waterless coolant after all. Recommended very highly by some people I trust on the BX club‎

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Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:18 pm
by jamescarruthers
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Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:10 pm
by Alan 480
good grief, not hanging about , hope you know where it all goes back together? :eek:

nae sure aboot yer toe-tectors tho . . . . . . :wink:

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:58 am
by jamescarruthers
Block is painted:

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Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:00 am
by jamescarruthers
Cylinder head is overhauled. This engine sounded lovely but will be interested to hear how it sounds with perfectly shimmed valves:

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Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:09 am
by jamescarruthers
I'm not 100% sure I'll be ready for the Hampshire meet which is sad as I really wanted to see the two resurrected D-reg cars together.

I am being slowed down trying to get these pipes copied in stainless steel. The problem is that the bends in one are so close together that most people can't do it. One company had them for ages after saying they could do it before ‎changing their mind. They are on their way to P D Gough who are incredibly expensive exhaust manufacturers and hopefully they can do it.

Also being slowed down by powder coating taking quite a while. Subframe is the main thing being done here (which is also getting zinc coated after seeing Jeff's post about his rear bumper bar) along with suspension‎ bits and engine bits. Exhaust manifold is just being painted, I couldn't afford ceramic coating. 

Basically the front will be like new. I seem to have the last Bilstein B4 front shock absorber in the world and am waiting, with fingers crossed, for one more to be made in Germany. They should come back in stock for everyone in a week or so hopefully.

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Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:11 am
by jamescarruthers
Alan 480 wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:10 pm
nae sure aboot yer toe-tectors tho . . . . . . :wink:
Hahaha, didn't realise I'd caught my flip flops! Promise you, I did actually have my safety shoes on for the real work

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:55 pm
by eye of ra
I have been looking into using stainless steel for various things and from what I have found it is not a good idea to use it in contact with aluminium as it causes the aluminium to corrode due to galvanic corrosion and I think the smaller of the two pipes pictured fits into the cylinder head.

It might be better to use normal steel and then zinc plate it.

PM sent or will be soon.

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:44 pm
by jamescarruthers
Well that is food for thought! I see stainless is more cathodic than the cast iron engine block and the steel pipe that used to go in to the head so you definitely have a good point.

 It will be going in with sealant which will help reduce the surface area that is contact with the aluminium. ‎I think your point is that the coolant acts as a path for the electrons so it probably doesn't matter where it is in the system.

Funnily enough, I was actually thinking of going for ‎waterless coolant, but hadn't considered that I was adding a new less reactive metal in to the system, and that this might help, as it shouldn't be conductive. This will be an extra £100-200, although I could miss out the prep fluid as the system is completely drained. I have heard good things about from some people I respect on the BXClub forum. ‎This might allow me to continue using the stainless steel.

I'm not sure if P D Gough do anything other than stainless steel. I will ask them. ‎

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:16 am
by jamescarruthers
I did some research and David is right, putting stainless steel in contact with aluminium is a bad idea. To be honest so is regular steel but stainless is even further away from aluminium on the galvanic corrosion scale and ‎will cause the aluminium to corrode easier.

So, the pipes are now being made in mild steel and will get cadmium or zinc plated. More time lost!‎

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:08 pm
by jifflemon
but sooooooooo worthwhile in the long run.

Personally, I love a deadline - I like the sound they make as they go whistling by! :rofl:

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:10 am
by jamescarruthers

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:10 am
by jamescarruthers
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Well, it looks amazing but it's still ‎not back in the car yet!

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:05 am
by eye of ra
Very impressive. WOW :eek:

Not been sure what to do with my mounting brackets that fit onto the block as its going to be black like yours. Decision is now made and it’s not black.

Is the gearbox white or is it a trick of the light/camera/my screen?

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:29 am
by jamescarruthers
Gearbox is painted with silver paint (VHT stuff, so let's see if the gearbox gets hot enough to bake it on as per instructions). It was bare aluminium alloy but with wouldn't clean up very bright with the stuff I bought so went with this option instead. 

Resisted painting the intake as I don't actually want a bling engine bay, just clean and tidy looking

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:18 pm
by jamescarruthers
I was searching for 480 stuff on Google and came across my car on Flickr! Pleasant surprise with a few nice comments:
https://flic.kr/p/Lo8Nv5

https://flic.kr/p/Lo8NV3

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:19 pm
by jamescarruthers
Back end if apart for refurbishment now with many parts off for powder coating. Rear bumper bar is toast so will be ignored for a little longer then will likely get the 400EUR (eek!) Geman replacement. Rachel, you were happy with yours from this place?

Re: 1987 480 ES Project -- D-reg, 2nd oldest in UK

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:29 pm
by jamescarruthers