My new life with a youngtimer

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ChrisDK
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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by ChrisDK » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:36 pm

Casually browsing the internet I found the white she devil for sale :hopping: :hopping:

Somebody decided to rescue the old banger from the scrap yard and has given it a new MOT
http://www.dba.dk/volvo-480-17-es-1989-km/id-504222531/

I'm glad it got another chance to live on.

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by Martin Mc » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:30 pm

At 13,500 DK it looks like cars in Denmark hold their value better than those over here in the UK - that equates to £1400 or so, which would buy a fairly respectable low mileage car here... not that there are many of those left in the UK 480 fold, of course!! :hopping:

Still, it is good to see the marque being loved elsewhere too!

Good spot!

Martin
Volvo 480 - There's NOTHING like it!
Previous 480 pedigree: 1992 ES (1.7 White) 1993 ES (2.0 Red) 1994 S (1.7 White) 1994 ES 2.0 (metallic red) 1995 S (1.7 Black) 1993 ES (2.0 Paris Blue) (0ver to you Keith!) #467/480 Celebration (flame red metallic)
Every decent bloke deserves an extra-marital car (so my wife tells me)(apparently it keeps me out of mischief.... really..)

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by ChrisDK » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:56 pm

In my last post many years ago I was happy to see that someone gave the white she devil a new MOT. Some time late (maybe a year or so) I checked the registration office just to discover that the car had been exportet out of the country. It was most likely sold to Germany and used as parts.
The reason for that is the laws in Denmark. When exporting a used car You can claim some on the initial registration tax back (currently 180% when new) in Denmark this was a very expensive car back in the days, so I guess it was the only feasible thing to do.

Ah well :nuts: still miss driving it.

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by jamescarruthers » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:35 pm

Are they still affordable now in Denmark or all gone and prices gone crazy?
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2001 Volvo C70 2.4T convertible (Olivolvo)
2003 Renault Avantime 3.0 V6 (Big Ren)
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by ChrisDK » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:15 am

The 480 scene has diminished a lot, over the last 2-3 years. I belive the danish 480 club has closed it's activity.

Currently only 19 480's hold a valid registration and MOT (out of 266 cars). There are only two cars for sale at this point at exorbitant prices.

1) low milage and very clean 1989 turbo - 8375£
2)also a 1989 Turbo with many miles - 10.000£

:crazy: :roll:

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by brinkie » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:31 pm

I can find you a mint condition 1992 Turbo auto with 51,000 kms for 10,000: https://www.dijkstra-classic-cars.nl/on ... 480-turbo/
I guess the tax on importing a car, even over 25 years old, is tremendous in DK. In NL we have very high taxes on new cars, but the tax collector says deprecation of the car is 92% at 9 1/2 years and 100% after 17 1/2 years, so you pay zero tax when importing an old car from within the EU.
Robert.

Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Vase Green, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum Mystic Silver
Past: 1981 Talbot-Matra Murena 2.2 Rouge Mephisto, 1995 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Paris Blue

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by ChrisDK » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:41 pm

Uhh brinkie. That's is a really nice and clean car you found :D :D

Just for fun. I found the latest import tax evaluation on a Volvo 480 in the public tax system.

The car was evaluated in june this year. A 1992 480 ES (milage ?)
Price new in 1992 39.399 £ or 44.323 euro
Estemated sales price 9.985 £ or 11.200 euro
Import tax 5445 £ or 6130 euro

I'm not sure how it is calculated. But the import tax is a percentage of the estimated sales price. How they estimate the sales price ??

Hovewer it gets totalt cracy if the car is more than 30 years old. Then the import tax is calculated from the original sales price and not the estimated sales price (as far as I understand) I think it is 40 % of the original sales price :nuts: in this case, if the car was from 1985 the import tax would be 15.756 £ or 17.728 euro

In essens if You wan't to import a old (expencive) car to Denmark, You would have to do it before it turned 30 years old = veteran car.

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by NillerGT » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:17 am

brinkie wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:31 pm
I can find you a mint condition 1992 Turbo auto with 51,000 kms for 10,000: https://www.dijkstra-classic-cars.nl/on ... 480-turbo/
I guess the tax on importing a car, even over 25 years old, is tremendous in DK. In NL we have very high taxes on new cars, but the tax collector says deprecation of the car is 92% at 9 1/2 years and 100% after 17 1/2 years, so you pay zero tax when importing an old car from within the EU.
What a car! But also, what an ad. I will keep a pdf in case one day I need inspiration...
I am just sorry for ChrisDK because of the tax regime. I am Danish myself (but never lived in DK) and so it is a special pinch to see such restrictions on what is a bit a form of heritage conservation, as cars are one of our key possessions since early last century.
But I digress.
Just got my first 480 (August 2020)!
1990 ES 1.7, Superwhite
I have ticked off around 45 items, cosmetic and mechanical
Remaining:
- Vibration at 1500 RPM (hard to locate)
- Rough idle (harder one)
- Touch-ups, polish
I also just bought a 2004 XC90.

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by brinkie » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:51 am

ChrisDK wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:41 pm
Just for fun. I found the latest import tax evaluation on a Volvo 480 in the public tax system.

The car was evaluated in june this year. A 1992 480 ES (milage ?)
Price new in 1992 39.399 £ or 44.323 euro
Estemated sales price 9.985 £ or 11.200 euro
Import tax 5445 £ or 6130 euro

I'm not sure how it is calculated. But the import tax is a percentage of the estimated sales price. How they estimate the sales price ??

Hovewer it gets totalt cracy if the car is more than 30 years old. Then the import tax is calculated from the original sales price and not the estimated sales price (as far as I understand) I think it is 40 % of the original sales price :nuts: in this case, if the car was from 1985 the import tax would be 15.756 £ or 17.728 euro
In Danish they would probably say "det er helt skørt!"

https://www.fyidenmark.com/importingcartoDenmark.html
"The costs of importing car to Denmark usually averages out to about 180% of the value of the car. That is not a misprint - average is 180%."
:cry: :cry: :cry:
My wife is fluent in Danish, actually South Jutlandic dialect (we always have fun how Legoland employees respond when a foreign tourist suddenly speaks their local dialect :lol:), and the thought of moving to less densely populated places has crossed our minds, but this would be a dealbreaker because her Volvo V70 would cost its weight in gold this way... Pity that foreigners aren't allowed to own a holiday cottage. The Danes are very good at keeping out anything that wants to cross the border I guess.

By the way, the 480 Turbo automatic from the ad has been advertised by its original owner -a Dutchman living in Switzerland- for years but nobody wanted it. He bought the car for his daughter, who was too scared to drive with it, as she is very short. So he decided to restore his mother's (her grandmother's) 1986 Suzuki Alto completely. It's probably one of the best examples money can buy at the moment.
Robert.

Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Vase Green, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum Mystic Silver
Past: 1981 Talbot-Matra Murena 2.2 Rouge Mephisto, 1995 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i Paris Blue

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by ChrisDK » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:56 pm

Det er helt skørt :crazy:

Dispite of the expensive cars and the high tax rate, we are the happiest people in the world ;)
Uhh.. South Jutlandic dialect even for me it's hard to understand when two south Jutlandic people engage in a conversation. But it have it's charm :D Besides the practicality of having a wife that's fluent in the difficult danish language, south Jutland is very pretty in fact so is the whole of Jutland and the south of fyen. We often compare our selves to the dutch people. I think we are very like minded albeit the danes seems to be more protective against any foreign values.

Since I don't have a Volvo annymore I have switched to a Eastgerman MZ motorcycle. Once a year a bunch of german freinds come to denmark and we drive around on motorcycles for three days. They especially like the costal line of jutland (east and west).

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Re: My new life with a youngtimer

Post by NillerGT » Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:20 pm

Det lyder hyggeligt 🙂
That sounds nice!
Just got my first 480 (August 2020)!
1990 ES 1.7, Superwhite
I have ticked off around 45 items, cosmetic and mechanical
Remaining:
- Vibration at 1500 RPM (hard to locate)
- Rough idle (harder one)
- Touch-ups, polish
I also just bought a 2004 XC90.

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