Oooops I did it again....

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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by Alan 480 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:40 pm

jifflemon wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:28 am
I'll probably pull the upper rear arms off next, because there was a horrifying post on FB about the upper bushes seizing, so I want to reassure myself that I've tackled/prevented that problem.
did the same on NORA but one top bolt would NOT play ball, N/S at chassis leg so it will be left until next winter. got the nut removed using a 16mm cranked ring spanner and fitted a new one in mean time . .. .
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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by jifflemon » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:23 pm

One week on and the question on everyones lips is: "is the tank removed?"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Come on people!

Instead I removed the upper arms - As previously mentioned, I'd see a horror post on Facebook, and true to form, Britney was no different.
N/S kinda played ball - And by that I mean the inner sleeve of the bush was seized to the pin, but thats nothing that a little heat won't fix.

The O/S side though? Well.... this happened:

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Yup, the bolt sheared clean off. Oh and the bush sleeve was seized on for good measure! :lol:

Un-deterred, I cleaned up the arms, pressed out the bushes and brought this lot home:

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For some lovely lashings of POR15:

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Tonight's job is to find some suitable rear arm bushes without spending mega bucks.

Just remember people, if you ever remove something like this, a little bit of copper grease on reassembly can save many broken hearts later on!

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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by Alan 480 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:58 pm

looking good , but still putting off tank removal? :-)

you could remove the pump and syphon the fuel out? or is fuel flow not about 200ml/min with no back pressure?

what are the plans for the snapped stud, drill our and insert a bolt/stud welded in from hub side?

are you planning poly bush or ??

if you have not changed the shocks at rear then the eye from those 'look' the same outer diameter, although the sleeve is too long.

I have a pair of jiggered shocks which might be used and I think i salvaged the bushes from the coil-overs from the SS1 , which leaked when attacked with the chipping hammer to remove the surface rust :shock: , so two possible versions / sources
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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by jifflemon » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:37 pm

Alan 480 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:58 pm
looking good , but still putting off tank removal? :-)

you could remove the pump and syphon the fuel out? or is fuel flow not about 200ml/min with no back pressure?

what are the plans for the snapped stud, drill our and insert a bolt/stud welded in from hub side?

are you planning poly bush or ??

if you have not changed the shocks at rear then the eye from those 'look' the same outer diameter, although the sleeve is too long.

I have a pair of jiggered shocks which might be used and I think i salvaged the bushes from the coil-overs from the SS1 , which leaked when attacked with the chipping hammer to remove the surface rust :shock: , so two possible versions / sources
Tank removal..... yeah!

Have found the part number for the stud - 3122177 - As to whether there's any left in the world..... well... :badmood:

I'll press out (with a BFH), hopefully without having to drop the beam.

My outbox currently has bush dimensions sent to pretty much everyone in the UK who does polybushes to see if there's an universal/easily obtainable bush (hopefully, they say "oh it's the same as an XYZ" and I could get those.... Dunno how I feel about polybushes. I've also got the rear shocks ready to swap, so again, a possibly there.

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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by Martin Mc » Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:23 am

jifflemon wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:23 pm
One week on and the question on everyones lips is: "is the tank removed?"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Come on people!

Instead I removed the upper arms - As previously mentioned, I'd see a horror post on Facebook, and true to form, Britney was no different.
N/S kinda played ball - And by that I mean the inner sleeve of the bush was seized to the pin, but thats nothing that a little heat won't fix.

The O/S side though? Well.... this happened:

Image

Yup, the bolt sheared clean off. Oh and the bush sleeve was seized on for good measure! :lol:

Un-deterred, I cleaned up the arms, pressed out the bushes and brought this lot home:

Image

For some lovely lashings of POR15:

Image

Tonight's job is to find some suitable rear arm bushes without spending mega bucks.

Just remember people, if you ever remove something like this, a little bit of copper grease on reassembly can save many broken hearts later on!
I think we are seeing the birth of the first Bionic Volvo 480! You will, of course, have to rename your car 'Steve Austin' :)

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And I bet there's a few on here (James, Sylvia, David to name a few) who look at this and go, "Six Million dollars? Pah, pin money for what a 480 will take!' :lol:
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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by arthuy » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:36 pm

I might be able to rescue a stud from my spares car, the rear axle isnt in too bad shape.

Depending how much fuel you have in the tank and the condition of the pipes you have a few options. I have pulled the pump out and used a pump to empty the tank, I did have about 5 litres in the tank which I drained using some 5l cans and took the pipe off at the filter.

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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by jamescarruthers » Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:04 pm

I haven't read all of your post and don't have time right now. However, there are suspension poly bushes kits listed on eBay but they are only listed as Volvo 400. No I don't fancy stiffening up the ride and transmitting vibrations through the body either but I understand that needs must sometimes. 
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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by jifflemon » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 pm

arthuy wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:36 pm
I might be able to rescue a stud from my spares car, the rear axle isnt in too bad shape.
If you could have a look, that'd be fab - I'll be checking the dealers tomorrow - Lord only knows we need a laugh! :lol:

Did have a gander on the Bay, found the front arm bushes (yes, will possibly end up doing those!), but nothing for the rear yet...

They do look very similar to the panhard rod bushes (I really should go out and measure them), which I've found on the bay (12.50 each!), so that may also be a consideration....

Like you James, Ride quality is what concerns me with polybushes.

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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by jifflemon » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:47 pm

Miss Fox has found us a winner! (well, technically I did, but we'll give her some credit!)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Repair-kit-S ... SwSVRdAP01

Also worth checking out the shop!

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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by Alan 480 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:42 pm

not too bad price wise,

I might 'take the old ones off you' ? depends on how i get on removing mine!!!
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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by jifflemon » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:06 pm

genuinely surprised price wise - That's 2 new arms in the kit, with every bush required.

Volvo it turns out, never made a replacement bush - Only replacement arms - Pretty odd given that every other bush is replaceable!

Polybushers - 2 out of 6 have replied: 1 "no" and one "whats it off".

My obvious next dilema.... Do I order 1,2 or 3?

Technically I should be selling Henry, not adding things to the "to do list"
Whilst the Blue turbo will deffo be getting them, maybe that should go polybushed, given it's already lowered...

Oh and the stud? Yup, now unobtainium!

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Re: Oooops I did it again....

Post by Alan 480 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:03 pm

jifflemon wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:06 pm
Oh and the stud? Yup, now unobtainium!
aye but that's an easy fix, if push REALLY came to shove a high tensile bolt would easily do, and there is the option to add a thin lock nut (if you use a srud vs bolt) to trap the stud, as long as you do both sides then the geometry is unlikely to be affected . .. .

I'm sure you have overcome far more difficult bodges . . . :hopping:
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