1990 Turbo Auto

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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by jifflemon » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:26 pm

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Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:41 am
Earlier models had a side shield both sides; later ones (at least, 2.0 l) only had one on driver's side.

If yours is missing I have a spare driver's side one...

Is the bonnet sitting properly closed along its side seals? I can't understand why the engine is getting so wet - cleaning those drain holes will have helped though!

Don't think the under bonnet insulation will make any difference to water ingress...

David
I think the autos only have a drivers side one because of the bulk of the autobox.

Water in the screen area is expected (and should drain away). Some of the under bonnet looks like is could be condensation? I'm wondering if the standard "foam" insulation would absorb it, then vaporise it once some engine heat is added?

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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by edie_fox » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:14 pm

So, this time it was the rotor arm. He’s fitted what I had, plus dis cap and spark plugs. He didn’t fit the leads I bought as they wouldn’t sit correctly and weren’t very good but the originals are fine. So that’s good news!

He was thinking the same, I need to get the bonnet sound proofing and insulation finished. This must be causing the condensation/water to get onto everything. So, should really do that before he goes to bed. Will bring giant paper to make template of someone else’s at meeting! He did say all seals and covers were good.

In other good news (this is rare!) Sailed through MOT. Just needed the number plate bulb I planned on getting sorted before it broke down/went in for booked MOT.

Also just called Volvo for service quotes. I didn’t have a pen but it was something like; minor was around £150-170 and major was around £250/270.

Leaving service until April.
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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by dragonflyjewels » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:52 pm

edie_fox wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:14 pm
Also just called Volvo for service quotes. I didn’t have a pen but it was something like; minor was around £150-170 and major was around £250/270.

Leaving service until April.
Great news on the MoT - I'll bring my templates along to the meet for the two side panels so you can copy them.

I thoroughly recommend you leave the service til April - I've always taken the view that it's better to have an older car looked at twice a year than once so ours all have service and MoT 6 months apart.
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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by edie_fox » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:05 pm

dragonflyjewels wrote:
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Great news on the MoT - I'll bring my templates along to the meet for the two side panels so you can copy them.

I thoroughly recommend you leave the service til April - I've always taken the view that it's better to have an older car looked at twice a year than once so ours all have service and MoT 6 months apart.
Thanks, Sylvia :D Yes, no point in putting nice new fluids in and whatnot when he'd benefit more from a fresh set after the sitting winter.

Re: the insulation/deadening. I'm having trouble finding anything of quality (and 20-25mm) that doesn't have the heat resistant metallic layer. A) Will this be a risk...electrically. I know Jeff mentioned that. And B) I fear it won't sit quite as comfortably around things and then water/condensation will just flow down it as it does the nakey bonnet at present. Has anyone else used a modern kind...with or without the metallic layer?
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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by dragonflyjewels » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:16 pm

The originals have a metal layer, but it's the side stuck to the bonnet, and there should be earthing clips to attach to it. Go for one layer with the metal and one without if you can only find self adhesive, then you can stick the two sticky sides together and glue the metal layer to the bonnet. Just make sure they combine to the right thickness et voila !
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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by Alan 480 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:44 am

not convinced the sound proofing is an issue, the other cars i have had are either naked GRP or sandwiched GRP

water is getting in from other areas?
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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by edie_fox » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:50 pm

Alan 480 wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:44 am
not convinced the sound proofing is an issue, the other cars i have had are either naked GRP or sandwiched GRP

water is getting in from other areas?
I think it gets in via the vents on bonnet, trickles down the inside of the bonnet then sits there and condensates further eventually dripping on all of the components/engine. I know the foam fits around things so, I'm guessing, is almost touching everything and not quite as easy to just flow down as bare metal and huge spaces!

I am a bit dubious of the metallic face on the newer ones though....I feel like it is equally as likely to run down that too! I will do it but it won't be until after I've seen an original one on someone else's. :)

The man who just fixed it and did the MOT said all the rubber seals and the side protection plastics are in place and good. The vent is the only place it can be flowing in from (besides spraying back off the road).
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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by jifflemon » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:13 pm

Considered this for underbonnet?

Excellent news on MOT!

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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by dcwalker » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:57 pm

Congrats on the MOT - I am pleased for you that at least this car isn't all problems!

I assume from the discussions about under-bonnet templates you are coming to the Lincolnshire meet; I look forward to seeing you and the car again! following up on your thread the other day, did you want me to bring that jack set with me?

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Re: 1990 Turbo Auto

Post by edie_fox » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:16 pm

dcwalker wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:57 pm
Congrats on the MOT - I am pleased for you that at least this car isn't all problems!

I assume from the discussions about under-bonnet templates you are coming to the Lincolnshire meet; I look forward to seeing you and the car again! following up on your thread the other day, did you want me to bring that jack set with me?

David
Ever so sorry, David, I must have missed a reply somewhere along the way. If you have a set suitable, that would be great. Let me know how much you would like for it :D Yes, I'm coming from Tattersall Castle and onwards as I'm not far from there so seems a bit mad (although I do love a good convy :lol: ) to go down the night before and pay for a hotel to come back up again! Haha. Well.....I'm coming if he's having a good day anyway! It is always the same kind of electrical non-start issue. Getting through them though! I think it was sat 2000-2017 so more use is weeding out the issues and gradually repairing and renewing things. Luckily, I'd already gathered a few bits so it was all there to be done once they figured it out. I has been different things each time. I am still a bit weary about the battery....I'm sure it's draining faster than it perhaps should.... We'll see!

Yes! The car itself is good, this is all fixable niggles....must not give up....must not give up...must not give up. :wall: I know I'd only want another. We've all done it! :lol:

Jeff...Yes, that's the stuff they recommended I put on top of the thin layer I'm on with (ok it's been months since I 'got on' with it!)...I'm a bit scared of the metallic top layer. Feel like it may just still let water run along it but, I guess it should sit snug on things and keep it totally off? Oh, the issues. :roll:
2019 - 1990 FOX 480B White Auto Turbo.
2016 -1990 G866 XPO 1.7 Light Blue ES
2008 - 1994 M314 NJA 2.0 Red ES
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