Speedo sticking around 50mph

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Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by Gapples » Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:14 am

Hi
Another speedo issue has raised its ugly head, its been working fine for over a year, once I started to use the car on a regular basis.
Yesterday though for whatever reason it decided to start sticking around 50mph.
I thought I was going a bit faster than 50mph on a dual carriageway so kept accelerating then suddenly the speedo jumped to 75mph.
Anyway it continues to stick at 50, even slowing down it will stick at 50 until down to about 25 to 30 and it will suddenly drop to the correct speed.
I can only think it's the speedo itself causing this, thought and advice welcome ?
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by jimmi480 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:07 pm

Hi .
never herd of this before. interesting to hear about this. god luck man. :)

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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by dragonflyjewels » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:28 am

Needle catching on peeling face perhaps ?
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by dcwalker » Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:41 pm

First suspect is needle catching on peeling face.

If the speedo face is in good condition with nothing for needle to catch on, I'd suggest that one of the two tiny clock springs behind the needle has broken - what you describe are some of the classic symptoms of that; it's an issue on one I'm repairing at the moment for a friend...

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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by Gapples » Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:00 pm

Yes, my only thought was the needle catching the peeling face as that's just about right where the 50 mph is.
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by brinkie » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:04 am

Definitely the needle catching on something. The speedometer is driven by a PWM signal, which doesn't suddenly stop and jump. Peeling of the speedo face is very common and unfortunately I don't have any faces in miles left (tons of them in km of course), so your best bet is sourcing a non-peeling UK speedo and swap the faces. The very early (up to MY 1989) and the late ones (MY 1993/1994) usually don't peel, MY 1990-1992 usually do. Also the rev counter faces are peeling from those years, but revs don't come in either metric or imperial units so I have plenty of those ;)
As a temporary measure, you could take the instrument cluster out, take the front off and blow the debris off with pressurised air, so the needle will run freely again.
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by WRDendy » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:20 am

There' also Murf's blue gauge faces available to download and print on the main site, at the bottom under 'Volvo 480 Fun Files': http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/volvo480/downloads.php
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by WillC9303 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:29 am

brinkie wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:04 am
The very early (up to MY 1989) and the late ones (MY 1993/1994) usually don't peel
My 1993 MY cluster has started to started to peel around the odometer area, but it’s relatively mild compared to some I’ve seen.
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by Gapples » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:16 pm

brinkie wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:04 am
Definitely the needle catching on something. The speedometer is driven by a PWM signal, which doesn't suddenly stop and jump. Peeling of the speedo face is very common and unfortunately I don't have any faces in miles left (tons of them in km of course), so your best bet is sourcing a non-peeling UK speedo and swap the faces. The very early (up to MY 1989) and the late ones (MY 1993/1994) usually don't peel, MY 1990-1992 usually do. Also the rev counter faces are peeling from those years, but revs don't come in either metric or imperial units so I have plenty of those ;)
As a temporary measure, you could take the instrument cluster out, take the front off and blow the debris off with pressurised air, so the needle will run freely again.
Thank you very much, my 480 is a 1992 1.7 es LE.
I didn't really mind the peeling, well until now, I rather thought it could be causing the problem.
Not to worry its fixable, one way or the other. What sort of job am I looking at to take this unit out ?

I'll keep a look out for a uk speedo face, thanks again for the information 👍
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by dcwalker » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:36 am

May well be able to help you with a speedo face - let me check.... :D

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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by Gapples » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:53 am

dcwalker wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:36 am
May well be able to help you with a speedo face - let me check.... :D

David
Thank you David, any help greatly appreciated 🙏
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by dcwalker » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:20 am

Gapples wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:53 am
dcwalker wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:36 am
May well be able to help you with a speedo face - let me check.... :D

David
Thank you David, any help greatly appreciated 🙏
I'll check when I'm back home this evening...

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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by dcwalker » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:47 pm

I do have a spare speedo face :D It's one which had a very small amount of peel which I have trimmed back flush and then black painted. You'd be hard pushed to tell once it's back behind the cluster clear plastic...

It's yours if you'd like it and you PM me your address.

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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by Gapples » Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:29 pm

Thank you David, PM sent 👍
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Re: Speedo sticking around 50mph

Post by dcwalker » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:52 am

Gapples wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:29 pm
Thank you David, PM sent 👍
And replied :D
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