Performance difference between 480GT and ES

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Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by glasgowjim » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:49 pm

" I can't enter the topics forum. I click on the topic line and nothing. I was wondering if there is a time delay before the forum allows me to peruse. "

Anyway, 2 questions

We have 3 480's in the family, namely ES, GT and Turbo. My wife's ES goes like ...... from the word go and has 220k on the clock and the red dipstick. I have the GT and the green dipstick and air con. Supposedly, the engines are exactly the same apart from the oil cooling she has under the pistons. My car GT, seems to be a gear behind hers ES. Once I get to 3000, then it picks up and goes. In a race she can't pull away but I have to push harder. Any ideas? There is a difference in the engines for sure but where? Her fifth gear is very good even from low rpm, mine lags a bit, I have to change down if I want to keep up. I have had the timing checked, ok but the plugs are very light coloured, almost white. I get extremely good fuel consumption. I wonder if I am running lean for some reason! Have you heard anything like this from anyone else.
Secondly, my turbo gauge only get just into the yellow by a quarter to a third, is this normal and what is the running pressure for a normal car supposed to be? Is there anything I should check apart from the boost system leaking to make sure the Turbo is producing it's best performance.

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Re: Difference between 480GT and ES

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Re: Difference between 480GT and ES

Post by glasgowjim » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:51 pm

Look up this page and have fun....

http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/volvo480/specs.php

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by m616tls » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:00 pm

Thanks GlasgowJim. Seems my quest is still on. I can only think it must be the air con compressor taking a bit of power off the engine response.
480 GT Green Aug 1994 "Sven"
480 Turbo Robou Paris Blue Aug 1992 "Eva"
SAAB 9-5 HOT Aero estate 2008 Black "Kemosaaby".........weasel xxxx comes to mind.
Previous cars.
940 2.3 SE Turbo May 1995 Burgundy "The Spy"
850 SE 2.5 1996 Burgundy. "Mew"
940 2.0 White "Dexy"

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by doingitsideways » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:48 pm

Could be, but unless the clutch is seized and the system is constantly running, there should be minimal drag from the compressor.

Hello btw :)
Yes, myself and Jamesy knock about around here too sometimes :wall:

Oh, forgot to mention:
The recirculating valve can go south over time, causing a few boost/vacuum related issues.
The original part is bobbins and hasn't been available for many years anyway, so many have upgraded to the VW/Audi 710 jobbie with good results

Do a search for 710 valve. ;)
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Hammers can't fix a 480!!!

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by jamesy12345 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:15 am

Recirc valve is a good call!

Here is the link for the VAG upgrade

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Audi- ... xysstSaCVd

Gone up a bit in price tho from what i remember :angry:
Current:
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Renault 21 '91
Subaru Legacy '05
Mazda RX-7 '93
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440 2 litre, 440 Turbo, 460 Turbo, 480 Turbo x2, 854 T-5R, S40 T4, V40 T4, S70 T5 & R, V70 R x2, S60 R

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by m616tls » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:39 pm

Thanks Doit... and Jamesy for your help. Nice to see you on this site as well!!! Is it possible to check the dump valve or is it a fit a new one and see. Is it straightforward to fit or do I have to remove every part of the engine compartment to get at it.
:hopping: :D :rofl:
480 GT Green Aug 1994 "Sven"
480 Turbo Robou Paris Blue Aug 1992 "Eva"
SAAB 9-5 HOT Aero estate 2008 Black "Kemosaaby".........weasel xxxx comes to mind.
Previous cars.
940 2.3 SE Turbo May 1995 Burgundy "The Spy"
850 SE 2.5 1996 Burgundy. "Mew"
940 2.0 White "Dexy"

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by jamesy12345 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:20 pm

It's a pretty straightforward fit mate, rear left of the engine bay just down from the turbo, although better if you can find someone with small hands (such is life :rofl:)
Current:
Volvo S60 '04
Renault 21 '91
Subaru Legacy '05
Mazda RX-7 '93
Renault 5 '84

Previous:
440 2 litre, 440 Turbo, 460 Turbo, 480 Turbo x2, 854 T-5R, S40 T4, V40 T4, S70 T5 & R, V70 R x2, S60 R

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by doingitsideways » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:46 pm

jamesy12345 wrote:better if you can find someone with small hands
Sadly, Mrs Sideways does not have small hands :lol:
"If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical fault!"
Hammers can't fix a 480!!!

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by m616tls » Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:19 pm

Need 2 new springs for my 480 GT alongside 4 shockers.........who's the best for these? I have decided to raise the GT at the front. It looks good wedgy, 40mm nose down but oh gaud the English roads are sooooooooooooo bad. Can't be doing with the brain ache any more. :hopping: :shock: :eek: :kill:
480 GT Green Aug 1994 "Sven"
480 Turbo Robou Paris Blue Aug 1992 "Eva"
SAAB 9-5 HOT Aero estate 2008 Black "Kemosaaby".........weasel xxxx comes to mind.
Previous cars.
940 2.3 SE Turbo May 1995 Burgundy "The Spy"
850 SE 2.5 1996 Burgundy. "Mew"
940 2.0 White "Dexy"

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by jamesy12345 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:25 am

m616tls wrote:Need 2 new springs for my 480 GT alongside 4 shockers.........who's the best for these? I have decided to raise the GT at the front. It looks good wedgy, 40mm nose down but oh gaud the English roads are sooooooooooooo bad. Can't be doing with the brain ache any more. :hopping: :shock: :eek: :kill:
I was planning to use the place below mate

http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/ind ... =2_160_862

http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/ind ... 25_154_435
Current:
Volvo S60 '04
Renault 21 '91
Subaru Legacy '05
Mazda RX-7 '93
Renault 5 '84

Previous:
440 2 litre, 440 Turbo, 460 Turbo, 480 Turbo x2, 854 T-5R, S40 T4, V40 T4, S70 T5 & R, V70 R x2, S60 R

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by jamescarruthers » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:39 pm

The original shock absorbers are made by Monroe. You can still‎ order the fronts at Volvo (or could about a year ago).

I'd suggest starting your search on their website and then seeing who sells the appropriate part number.‎
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Performance difference between 480GT and ES

Post by m616tls » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:37 pm

Thanks Jamesy and JamesC. I'll look at the sites and check for Monroes.
480 GT Green Aug 1994 "Sven"
480 Turbo Robou Paris Blue Aug 1992 "Eva"
SAAB 9-5 HOT Aero estate 2008 Black "Kemosaaby".........weasel xxxx comes to mind.
Previous cars.
940 2.3 SE Turbo May 1995 Burgundy "The Spy"
850 SE 2.5 1996 Burgundy. "Mew"
940 2.0 White "Dexy"

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