Difference between ES and GT

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Difference between ES and GT

Post by Cyclone_27 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:37 am

Hey this is probably an old question but what is the difference between a GT and an ES?
When i got my insurance i put my reg in the system and it said it was a GT...but on the back of the car its down as an ES
I'm kinda stumped lol
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Post by Van » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:14 pm

Maybe the boot window has been replaced?
GT has rather creative upholstery, heated seats, height adjustment for the passenger seat, alloys, traction control.
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Post by glasgowjim » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:16 pm

In the uk models the biggest difference and the most obvious is the upholstery which is a very dark green with coloured squares on it . The uk version does not have height adjusting passenger seat as standard. As for traction control I dont know about that one.

My daughter drives an ES ( oh also has heated seats) and the son has a GT and I dont notice any difference apart from cosmetic ones. :)

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Post by Yossarian » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:40 pm

It always surprised me that the latest 480s weren't given a 2.0 16v engine.
[b]2.0ES.[/b] - [b][url=http://volvo480.dragons.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17327]Sold[/url][/b].

Hopefully for 2009 - 1.7 Turbo.

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Post by glasgowjim » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:20 pm

http://volvo480.dragons.org.uk/forum/vi ... hp?t=11057

this old thread has some excellent pictures of the gt go compare.... :D

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Post by grafi » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:54 pm

Van wrote:GT has rather creative upholstery, heated seats, height adjustment for the passenger seat, alloys, traction control.
My car has all above features, and it is an ES from Germany.
So I dont know really what was the difference.
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Post by glasgowjim » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:17 pm

the upholstery was unique to gt.

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Post by Van » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:43 pm

grafi wrote:
Van wrote:GT has rather creative upholstery, heated seats, height adjustment for the passenger seat, alloys, traction control.
My car has all above features, and it is an ES from Germany.
So I dont know really what was the difference.
Someone might have replaced the interior upholstery.
I don't know what the German spec was but Germans like to buy exclusive cars fully loaded so they might have dropped in a few extras.

btw great work on your car, impressive photo's. I'm curious to the turbo engine too.
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Post by Speedy1st » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:48 am

glasgowjim wrote:the upholstery was unique to gt.
only for UK, the continental or at least the german GT got usual full leather seats.
And a slightly lowered suspension, of course not that much, just like 10 or 20mm.
For the rest it seems the same like UK, height adjustable passenger seat, aircon, Tracs, heated seats.


I only wonder about Traction Control = Tracs. Only available on late models/GT
The trivia about it is, that it was standard on GT Packages, but often was forgotten. :D


most of the options, if not all could be bought even for the ES.

U said its a german car, here the ES (always 1.7) was discontinued in 1992 or 1993, replaced by the 2.0 . A GT is a 1994, so only could be ordered with a Turbo or 2L.

I say this, because i heard that in Netherlands there were 1.7l "480 S" too, if thats true it would be bit confusing.



Take a look at the bottom of your backwindow, there is a number that indicates the year your windows was produced. Should be the same on all windows, otherwise its replaced.
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Post by grafi » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:58 am

Van wrote:
grafi wrote:
Van wrote:GT has rather creative upholstery, heated seats, height adjustment for the passenger seat, alloys, traction control.
My car has all above features, and it is an ES from Germany.
So I dont know really what was the difference.
Someone might have replaced the interior upholstery.
I don't know what the German spec was but Germans like to buy exclusive cars fully loaded so they might have dropped in a few extras.

btw great work on your car, impressive photo's. I'm curious to the turbo engine too.
Thanks, I will make some photos about the engine as well, but nothing special, it looks like other Turbos. :) Unfortunately I dont have lot photos about the engine replacing, but I will try to upload what I have.

But may I ask, you mean the ruched leather inserts and different cutted leather seats under the creative upholstery?

Because what we discovered with my friend, that my front leather seats have different cutting than his, but the same full leather.
Here is mine.
So I guess there was a change, after 19944? (His leather seats come from a 1992 Turbo.)

Anyways, we made a theory, that the very last produced ES got any extras they found remained in the storehouse. ;)
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Post by glasgowjim » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:06 am

Oh and the GT wheels are the "wire looking wheels" always forget the names of the damn things.

On traction control never had one yet on a GT.

Oh and in uk definately no passenger height adjustment.

The options system that volvo used confuses the picture significantly. So I usually only assume (standard with no options)

basic S model 1.7ltr no abs no aircon. analogue gauges steel wheels

ES 2 ltr has abs alloy wheels

GT 2 ltr aircon special wheels no sunroof unique interior

Celebration 2 ltr aircon special wheels no sunroof unique interior (black ruched leather)

Turbo 1.7 ltr abs uprated brakes abs

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Post by grafi » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:20 am

Speedy1st wrote: And a slightly lowered suspension, of course not that much, just like 10 or 20mm.
was it available on ES as well?
Speedy1st wrote:
most of the options, if not all could be bought even for the ES.

U said its a german car, here the ES (always 1.7) was discontinued in 1992 or 1993, replaced by the 2.0 . A GT is a 1994, so only could be ordered with a Turbo or 2L.

I say this, because i heard that in Netherlands there were 1.7l "480 S" too, if thats true it would be bit confusing.

Take a look at the bottom of your backwindow, there is a number that indicates the year your windows was produced. Should be the same on all windows, otherwise its replaced.
I will check it, but the car parks about ten minutes walking from here in a garage. And its really cold outside. :)
So, you say that mine could not be an ES. I checked the VIN (XLBEC313ESC593703) but nothing refers to ES or something else.
But I checked mobile.de, and almost all of the 2.0 from 94-95 are S. (I found one ES from 94 but its from France.)
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Post by grafi » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:21 am

glasgowjim wrote:Oh and the GT wheels are the "wire looking wheels" always forget the names of the damn things.
You mean Vesa? :)

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Post by grafi » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:40 am

I found a 480 German catalogue from 1994, only S and Turbo.
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Post by Van » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:36 pm

The 'S' was a specked down 'ES' for the poor people.
The brochure learns me German cars were a bit better specked then Dutch cars.
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Post by Speedy1st » Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:54 am

grafi wrote:
Speedy1st wrote: And a slightly lowered suspension, of course not that much, just like 10 or 20mm.
was it available on ES as well?

I heard there was a Sport suspension from Volvo, and i seen it sometimes at ebay, and as i dont know anything about it except that it is slightly lower, i dont know when it was for sale.
So i dont know if this sport suspension is the same as the GT suspension.

The 'S' was a specked down 'ES' for the poor people.
well, the S had the InfoCentre as option and not as standard, but it had a bigger displacement therefore, so i dont know if you can call it specked (spec'ed?) down.


Well, i cant agree with the catalogue completely. Seems like it is an early 1993 one. There are so much S around, i dont think they all installed Foglights by themselves, I have never seen unpainted bumpers on anything except the 1.7 / ES , and as they were replaced by the S, that will mean all S had painted bumpers.

I'm not sure about the 14 inch wheels, too.



but that doenst have much to do with the question in the beginning
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Post by Van » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:27 am

Speedy1st wrote:
The 'S' was a specked down 'ES' for the poor people.
well, the S had the InfoCentre as option and not as standard, but it had a bigger displacement therefore, so i dont know if you can call it specked (spec'ed?) down.
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Post by grafi » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:30 am

Speedy1st wrote:
grafi wrote:
Speedy1st wrote: And a slightly lowered suspension, of course not that much, just like 10 or 20mm.
was it available on ES as well?

I heard there was a Sport suspension from Volvo, and i seen it sometimes at ebay, and as i dont know anything about it except that it is slightly lower, i dont know when it was for sale.
So i dont know if this sport suspension is the same as the GT suspension.

The 'S' was a specked down 'ES' for the poor people.
well, the S had the InfoCentre as option and not as standard, but it had a bigger displacement therefore, so i dont know if you can call it specked (spec'ed?) down.


Well, i cant agree with the catalogue completely. Seems like it is an early 1993 one. There are so much S around, i dont think they all installed Foglights by themselves, I have never seen unpainted bumpers on anything except the 1.7 / ES , and as they were replaced by the S, that will mean all S had painted bumpers.

I'm not sure about the 14 inch wheels, too.



but that doenst have much to do with the question in the beginning
Well, the code on the front page says that it has printed in 1994, but the list is quite stupid, on the photos the S are with "15 wheels, and it said not available.. So based on this I can easily imagine that the German import cars was delivered with factory installed foglights and other stuffs.

Anyways, you're right it does not really connects to the original question.

Maybe this will do:
I have two pictures about leather seats:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/425 ... 6a58_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/422 ... 9eb8ff.jpg

Please, notice the difference. :)
Then explain me please why is that. :D
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Re: Difference between ES and GT

Post by glasgowjim » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:49 pm

The basic S comes with a front grille with a solid black plastic where the fogs would normally be.

On the second point the ruched leather door cards are from a celebration (UK models ) the smooth leather panels are from a standard leather interior.

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Re: Difference between ES and GT

Post by Speedy1st » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:15 am

The leather interior is different on Celebration/Collection and the Rest (meant to be, but wasn't the case everytime).

Note the seat seams. :)
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