Track car...

cambscarcrew · Post by **cambscarcrew** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:26 pm

Hello just registered.

Quick question for now...

I'm planning to buy an old/damaged 480 to use as a track car.

I know there are several engines available

Could anyone tell me what these are and what power they output, and, therefore in your veiw what would be the one to look for for the track car?

Thanks in advance

Lewis

robkendall · Post by **robkendall** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:31 am

i would go turbo....or maybe the 2 litre
engines.
bhps are from memory so might not be entirely right lol

N/A - B18ep engine type - 109bhp
turbo - B18ft engine type - 120bhp
N/a2.0 - B20something engine type - no idea bhp

theyve all got their strengths and weakness....personally i would go turbo, but thats just because theyre wmore tuneable than the N/A types.
but the 2.0 is a pretty nippy car with a fair bit of top end...and smooth too.

rgrds
rob

rgreenhalf · Post by **rgreenhalf** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:12 am

Think the N/A 2.0 is around 120bhp as well.

Turbo has for more possibilities for (cheap) tuning. Richmod, decat, Cold air feed, bigger turbo, bigger injectors etc etc.

guitarcarfanatic · Post by **guitarcarfanatic** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:31 am

The 2 Ltrs are 110 BHP. Their torque figures are closer to the turbos though.

Ettore Bugatti · Post by **Ettore Bugatti** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:20 pm

Dont forget the B18FP/EP with 102/106 horses.

Turbo's give the best results after tuning and relativly a lot is available, but a N/A has better throttle response.

A B20F with hot cam, flowed head, itb's, light flywheel and open exhaust should be very nice. The only trouble is making/finding one...

SMOOTH 480 · Post by **SMOOTH 480** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:16 pm

b20f with a cam like mine feels so much more than 110bhp but im guessing the torque figures have increased more than the bhp
it tends to torque steer a fair bit if you really go for it off the line !!!!
the turbo will be a better bet on the track if you can keep it cool but if youre after torque and thrashability id go for the 2.0

Murf · Post by **Murf** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:24 pm

TTTTUUUUUUUURRRRRRRBBBBBBOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris1roll · Post by **chris1roll** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:28 pm

Turbo, no doubt about it, anything else is just playing at it.

guitarcarfanatic · Post by **guitarcarfanatic** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:34 pm

I think a user on here called Benji (and this is some time back like when I first started visiting here) used to use a stripped out 2ltr for racing. He said he preferred the 2ltr for throttle response out of corners. I guess this would only be useful if you racing on a corner filled track

SMOOTH 480 · Post by **SMOOTH 480** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:51 pm

That would be due to 160nm of torque and no lag !! although on a straight a tuned turbo would catch and over take then it depends on the driver skill and set up of the car suspension wise

chris1roll · Post by **chris1roll** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:01 pm

guitarcarfanatic wrote:I think a user on here called Benji (and this is some time back like when I first started visiting here) used to use a stripped out 2ltr for racing. He said he preferred the 2ltr for throttle response out of corners.

Because he didn't have a turbo

cambscarcrew · Post by **cambscarcrew** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:50 pm

Thanks very much for the response guys, as far as I can see it will not matter providing I get a 2.0 or a B18ft model...

guitarcarfanatic wrote:I think a user on here called Benji (and this is some time back like when I first started visiting here) used to use a stripped out 2ltr for racing. He said he preferred the 2ltr for throttle response out of corners. I guess this would only be useful if you racing on a corner filled track

Well the track I go to is the brands hatch Indy circuit so yes, many corners

Thanks again, will continue to be a member!

Lewis

glasgowjim · Post by **glasgowjim** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:37 pm

turbo rich modded 1040 kg only 5% margin faster than shit off a shovel and I have trubo , 2ltr and 1.7 ltr outside the house as I type this !

must be a rich modded turbo with 40mm lowered suspension.

anything else is expensive .

vroom vroom

glasgowjim · Post by **glasgowjim** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:41 pm

Pity you are not in glasgow as I have a 1.7 NA 480 with an engine as strong as fcuk sitting for 3months put battery in and it turned straightaway. engine is seriuosly good body work fine runs like a bloody train. and going cheap for Ã‚Â£120(and in full working order) and believe me well worth it. reason I have too many 480s and need to cull them.

aibast · Post by **aibast** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:04 am

go with a turbo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQeJLPrTcXE