Window Regulator Cable Detached

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Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by Jaster » Sat May 05, 2018 2:26 pm

My passenger window is fully open and not going back up again - I've taken the door card off and found the end of the cable from the regulator:

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Can anyone give me any pointers on what to do with it? It's still attached to the motor (which is working fine), but I can't work out where it's supposed to attach, or for that matter if something has broken in the process.

Bad timing given the meet in a week's time. Perhaps I'll turn up with a bin liner gaffa taped over the window... :wall:
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by frenchfries » Sat May 05, 2018 2:55 pm

Send a flare to the Facebook club as well, you may get a faster answer since this is urgent :)
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by Jaster » Sat May 05, 2018 3:21 pm

I tend to avoid facebook as much as possible but in this case I fear I shall have to make an exception...

Another option I'm considering is coming up with a way to prop the window shut for now since it doesn't really need to open as I'm fortunate enough to have working AC. Of course if I do that then no doubt the AC will be the next thing to go wrong... :badmood:
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by jamescarruthers » Sat May 05, 2018 4:04 pm

I think that's the end that attaches to the slider that goes up and down the rail‎. I'd have thought the plastic has pulled through and unfortunately it isn't  fixable. I've often wondered if the guy who sells plastic bits through Shapeways could help us with this.

Sorry.

Propping a window up is a 480 pro-skill‎... welcome aboard! It will be easier with the regulator out. You have to lower the window a bit to get a bolt out I think. It's a bit tight but not so bad to remove. 


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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by dragonflyjewels » Sat May 05, 2018 4:11 pm

Joep repairs them, but its not cheap and it has to go to Netherlands. I know someone with some 480 parts - have already asked him for the fog for you. I'll pm you contact details.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by Jaster » Sat May 05, 2018 4:24 pm

Thanks Sylvia.
jamescarruthers wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 4:04 pm
I think that's the end that attaches to the slider that goes up and down the rail‎. I'd have thought the plastic has pulled through and unfortunately it isn't  fixable. I've often wondered if the guy who sells plastic bits through Shapeways could help us with this.
On closer inspection it looks like something has snapped off somewhere as there's broken plastic in the bottom of the door and I can't work out where the cable should attach to loop around so I suspect the bit in question is no longer there as you suggest.
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Sat May 05, 2018 4:04 pm
Propping a window up is a 480 pro-skill‎... welcome aboard! It will be easier with the regulator out. You have to lower the window a bit to get a bolt out I think. It's a bit tight but not so bad to remove. 
(don't be tempted by the cheap ones at Mr. Auto... they are for a 440/460 but they won't listen when you try and explain it is a different car!).‎
The window itself is pretty firmly stuck where it is so no luck propping it closed either. Looks like I'll have to have a word with the local specialists on Tuesday to see if anything can be done by the weekend. Might end up seeing if I can get a new regulator in time for the weekend and then get the existing one repaired as and when to keep as a spare. Skandix claim to have them as do a few people in the UK, but I'll check the part numbers before doing anything!
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by dragonflyjewels » Sat May 05, 2018 5:50 pm

If you buy an aftermarket one, the 'comfort' features won't work - window won't close on the key, or open without a finger on the button but that's not really a problem for a nearside window.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by dragonflyjewels » Sat May 05, 2018 6:00 pm

Just checked, Joep does a refurb for 60 euros. Postage won't be cheap as they are quite heavy.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by eye of ra » Sat May 05, 2018 6:32 pm

First thing to say is if you are going to repair it rather than replace it is STOP PRESSING THE WINDOW BUTTON without the tension the wire will get tangled inside the motor very quickly and make repair much harder.

I’m sure I’ve posted pictures of this but at the moment can’t find them.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by jamescarruthers » Sat May 05, 2018 6:51 pm

dragonflyjewels wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 6:00 pm
Just checked, Joep does a refurb for 60 euros. Postage won't be cheap as they are quite heavy.
I'd forgotten about this handy service he does! Might send my original off to him for repair. ‎

Postage ‎(x2) plus £60 is probably less than a new one. That's be my choice, then you don't mess around getting the wrong size or one that doesn't know how to do the clever close thing.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by eye of ra » Sat May 05, 2018 7:05 pm

Know I posted pictures somewhere but quicker to post new.

This is what’s broken.

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Although it could be the bit of plastic at the other end.

As it should look more like this, notice the metal repair.
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And this is what happens inside the motor when you keep pressing the button as I did.
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They are repairable, as above, although I should really have done both ends in metal to stop it happening again.I keep meaning to make a How-To.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by Dgrimaud » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:25 am

Bonjour,

I bought that one from a famous french dealer :
https://www.oscaro.com/mecanisme-de-lev ... 882-1561-p

It works very well, and the 'comfort' features do work, as it's driven by the CEM. Just had to modify the wire to use the original outlet.

Here is a pic of the original compared to the Valeo :
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by Jaster » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:45 am

Hi David - I managed to get hold of another one that looks identical to the one you've got, haven't got round to fitting it yet as the window is propped shut with a 2x4, and 'temporary' solutions like that always seem to hang around for longer than intended... :D
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by Boyscout » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:43 am

Hello, I would like help on how to disassemble the piece that attaches to the glass (where there is the green plastic latch that usually breaks, I can't get it out of the track) and some advice on how to replace the latch with a new one more resistant metal. Are there any repair kits on the market? Thanks.

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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:21 pm

There is a 3D printed kit available. Have a search on here. It may be listed at Shapeways but it could be some other 3D printer place too. 

Someone kindly sent me one but I haven't used i‎t yet. 
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached

Post by Jaster » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:15 pm

viewtopic.php?t=35752

Here's the part in question: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3140751
Up to you to sort out printing, for example via 3D Hubs or similar.
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