Transmission problems (axle shaft) (SOLVED!)

levin · Post by **levin** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:10 am

Hi there...

Well, I knew there was something wrong with the axle or something, but today it got worse.

Every time I turn the steering wheel (while i'm driving) I hear this sound on the left side, which I think in english means AXLE SHAFT. It's the TIP of the AXLE in order words.

It's like, a roaring sound kinda of a "crunk crunk crunk", like, everyone on the street looks at the car, how embarassing.

I don't even want to drive it, jeez...

Any clues?....

levin · Post by **levin** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:45 pm

Since nobody knows...

Does anyone know if the axle of the Volvo 440/460 (GLE, GLT, Turbo) is the same as the 480 turbo? (or only the turbo version?)

Cheers

ebdl · Post by **ebdl** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:29 pm

It's not a sort of creaking noise that happens particularly on full lock is it? A quick and easy thing to check is that the bump-stops for the suspension are properly lubricated. This is often missed on servicing and I know that (on 440s at least) unlubricated bump-stops cause loud creaking on steering. If there's been no change in the way that your car steers or handles then I reckon this could well be your problem.

Ed

levin · Post by **levin** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:47 pm

ebdl wrote:It's not a sort of creaking noise that happens particularly on full lock is it? A quick and easy thing to check is that the bump-stops for the suspension are properly lubricated. This is often missed on servicing and I know that (on 440s at least) unlubricated bump-stops cause loud creaking on steering. If there's been no change in the way that your car steers or handles then I reckon this could well be your problem.

Ed

Hi Ed,

Thanks for your reply mate.

I doubt that the noise comes from the bump stops really, because the noise doesn't sound only on full lock. Sometimes, just by turning 10Âº to the left is enough for it to sound.
In addition, I also feel little 'hits' on the steering wheel...

Cheers

ebdl · Post by **ebdl** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:55 pm

Do you have PAS? Might be a problem with your pump if you're getting uneven resistance in the steering.

(I think the bump-stop creaking can happen throughout the steering range as well, often more noticeable at full lock and slow speed. You wouldn't notice any change in how your steering feels with this though.)

Agwa Moose · Post by **Agwa Moose** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:12 pm

Sounds like a buggered CV joint

J

robkendall · Post by **robkendall** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:55 am

just like im above me says.......cv joint sounds very much like
not a massively hard job, and you can get kits to recondition the 'spiders' inside
(kind of like three bearings on running together on each piece?)
rgrds
rob

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:41 am

Agwa Moose wrote:Sounds like a buggered CV joint

J

I 3rd that! My Subaru has the same problem! knock knock sound when I do full lock during right.

levin · Post by **levin** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:50 am

What's CV joint?

Constant Velocity Joints?

http://www.samarins.com/glossary/cv_joint.html

Does anyone know where can I get the 'repairing' kit for it?

Here, a new axle shaft costs about 70â‚¬. Used one about 25â‚¬ (but you never know if it is in good condition or not)

Cheers

Agwa Moose · Post by **Agwa Moose** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:51 am

levin wrote: Constant Velocity Joints

Thats the one

levin wrote: Does anyone know where can I get the 'repairing' kit for it

I know GSF and euro car parts sell them but delivery to portugal might cost a bit, could try a local motor factors, or Volvo (could be expensive that though

), alternatively get one from a breakers, just have a good look at it first to make sure its not buggered

J

levin · Post by **levin** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:31 pm

Just checked and the CV joint is not losing grease or anything, so the problem is not lubrification.

I think it should be the bearings (spider alike

) that gave up on life? lol

robkendall · Post by **robkendall** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:56 pm

sure some drwho fan will post the pic of an exploded cv joint, and also even the volvo part numbers for the replacement bearings....

iirc theres three bearings per side, and the circlips to hold them on.....ive only ever done one once, and not on a volvo, although had the axel out to swap the clutch on the first 480, so know what it looks like!!

rgrds
rob

levin · Post by **levin** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:03 pm

Bad diagnostic. It isn't the CV joint.

I've put both front wheels on stands (lifted them off the floor) and engaged 1st gear. Both wheels start spinning, but the one on the right stops after a bit, like, the car almost shuts down, and comes this smell from the wheel, and it doesn't seem to be FERODO or something.

Any ideas? Anyone had this problem? I hate to ride by "FOOT!" and the 480 is the only "method" of transportion that i have

levin · Post by **levin** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:40 pm

help?

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:47 pm

levin wrote:help?

Have you checked the wheel bearings?

When the bearings fail, the disks can grind against the caliper, causing a noise. With the car lifted off the ground, make sure there is no play in the wheel bearings.

Also check the driveshaft nuts, that hold the driveshaft into the middle of the wheel, if these are loose, then the wheel bearings can also be loose.

Hope that you find the problem.

While the car is raised, try to wobble everything, since you may find that something is loose. The anti roll bar links are also prone to making lots of noise when worn out.

If it's as bad a noise as you say then something should be easy to find.

It's also worth checking the gearbox oil level, and the colour of the oil. Drain the oil, and change it, or if it is nice and clean, filter it an put it back in. The oil should be golden and transparent in colour. Silver particles in the oil indicate bearing failure, yellow very fine particles are somewhat normal (normal wear from syncromesh), although if it's enough to make the oil cloudy, then change the oil.

If the oil has leaked out of the gearbox, then it's likely to be dead already.

Richard

levin · Post by **levin** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:05 pm

Ok Richard, I'll check that!

Btw, you got mail

/ pm also

Cheers

levin · Post by **levin** » Tue May 02, 2006 10:23 pm

Well, it looks like Mr Pruen won the prize!

Yep, it was the wheel bearing, new one on it's way.

Thanks for the help every1.

Cheers

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:50 pm

Glad that you got the problem solved.

Richard

levin · Post by **levin** » Fri May 05, 2006 7:35 am

PROBLEM SOLVED!

Volverine returned home yesterday and I'm very happy now