ES swaying like turtle while drive

bigdickbuster · Post by **bigdickbuster** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:40 pm

Hello!

I've replaced few stuff in the front suspension. Except shock absorbers. They aren't very good, but they are alive

Now handling is good, but not perfect. I have impression that front of the car is swaying for the sides.

When I push the front of the car swaying stay after 2 moves.

When i drive it' s something like this:

Front
L<---- ----->R

Does weak shock absorbers can give this results?

If car is moved about 120 km/h (75 mph) swaying increased.

The impression is that engine frame with suspension is loosed.

I have impression that i'm driving on the turtle

( I mean about the style of walking)

How can i check it?

glasgowjim · Post by **glasgowjim** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:56 pm

double check all bolts are tight and nothing left off .

check spring at top of shock absorber is seated correctly.

Tracking ????

hub nut has not come loose ?

bigdickbuster · Post by **bigdickbuster** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:57 am

Thanks Jim. I'll check all of your list and I'll give a report.

kev · Post by **kev** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:50 am

Hi there, I replaced my shocks for the standard Sachs ones at the front .
When I push down hard at one corner it returns straight away with no bounce .
Hope this helps.

ted clutch · Post by **ted clutch** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:04 am

you may have a wobbly head.

bigdickbuster · Post by **bigdickbuster** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:23 am

I don't think so

rather wobbly belly

Jim - front wheels doesn't have loose. Nuts and bearings are tightened well.

glasgowjim · Post by **glasgowjim** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:36 pm

Only left with 2 things then ....

tracking ( check tyre wear )

and shocks.

ted clutch · Post by **ted clutch** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:52 pm

shocks sound favorite. look at the rears i bet the covers have rusted away.most dampers start big decline from only 50000mile. turns an old car into handling that still hold ground by today.try and find some kyb. they used today on many manufactured cars.

bigdickbuster · Post by **bigdickbuster** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:13 pm

I found shock absorbers in good price.

All of the sellers talk about rubber damper.

Supposedly, this should be changed every change of shock absorbers

How to check if it is good / bad?

Is pressing and crushing can help in this case?

pol · Post by **pol** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:26 am

I dont think the rubber boot bit will really make that much difference. Might stop it bottoming out.

It sounds like your dampers are dead. I re-used the volvo foam rubber bits which look similar to the ones in the picture. I think they are more of a 'bump-stop' ?

If something was loose enough to cause those symptoms you would probably hear clunking noises also.

I vote change the shocks. Standard shocks are fairly cheap and easy to change if you have a jack and spring compressors.

Paul

V480TI · Post by **V480TI** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:24 am

I suspect the track rods or steering rods
(are these called like this ? I am not sure)
I mean the ball joints at the end of the steering rack left and right, and also the ball joints that join the hub with the wishbones.

You can also check the stabilizer rod, has also a ball joint on each side.

Hope you know what I mean, in short you have two ball joints on your right side and 2 on your left side that can cause this behaviour.
And the stabilizer rods also.

greetz

bigdickbuster · Post by **bigdickbuster** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:35 am

It's hard to drive more than 70 mph because car start swaying like ship on the sea or car on the wind

I suspect dampers are indeed near to dead. And tracking is a little bit bad, because outer edge of the tire is worn tighter.

I must change dampers, and dampers bearings. Probably this will help.

...If don't..... i will be

V480TI · Post by **V480TI** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:17 pm

Well, you can easily check the things I wrote about.
If it aint these things you can change your dampers I think, It's all about deleting possibilities.

greetz

bigdickbuster · Post by **bigdickbuster** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:31 pm

I wrote my previous post so long, that I didn't noticed yours

All stuff except dampers and steering (slat?) is replaced. Steering doesn't have loose

V480TI · Post by **V480TI** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:43 pm

And, forgot about these : how are your bushes in the wishbones ?

greetz

bigdickbuster · Post by **bigdickbuster** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:58 pm

I've replaced all stuff from this photo

(some elements are different-ilustrative photo)

ted clutch · Post by **ted clutch** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:25 pm

dampers then.

bigdickbuster · Post by **bigdickbuster** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:23 am

Yesterday I installed centering ring between rim and hub.

Few months ago I bought used wheels for the winter. - seller told that he used them in Volvo 460. It turned out, that the rims are from Opel (Vauxhall) Astra, so the center hole is bigger.

Handling is much better

ted clutch · Post by **ted clutch** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:08 pm

yet another badly fitted wheel problem.

ted clutch · Post by **ted clutch** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:09 pm

yet another badly fitted wheel problem. slashes wrists and lays down.