ES swaying like turtle while drive
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ES swaying like turtle while drive
Hello!
I've replaced few stuff in the front suspension. Except shock absorbers. They aren't very good, but they are alive
Now handling is good, but not perfect. I have impression that front of the car is swaying for the sides.
When I push the front of the car swaying stay after 2 moves.
When i drive it' s something like this:
Front
L<---- ----->R
Does weak shock absorbers can give this results?
If car is moved about 120 km/h (75 mph) swaying increased.
The impression is that engine frame with suspension is loosed.
I have impression that i'm driving on the turtle ( I mean about the style of walking)
How can i check it?
I've replaced few stuff in the front suspension. Except shock absorbers. They aren't very good, but they are alive
Now handling is good, but not perfect. I have impression that front of the car is swaying for the sides.
When I push the front of the car swaying stay after 2 moves.
When i drive it' s something like this:
Front
L<---- ----->R
Does weak shock absorbers can give this results?
If car is moved about 120 km/h (75 mph) swaying increased.
The impression is that engine frame with suspension is loosed.
I have impression that i'm driving on the turtle ( I mean about the style of walking)
How can i check it?
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you may have a wobbly head.
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shocks sound favorite. look at the rears i bet the covers have rusted away.most dampers start big decline from only 50000mile. turns an old car into handling that still hold ground by today.try and find some kyb. they used today on many manufactured cars.
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I found shock absorbers in good price.
All of the sellers talk about rubber damper.
Supposedly, this should be changed every change of shock absorbers
How to check if it is good / bad?
Is pressing and crushing can help in this case?
All of the sellers talk about rubber damper.
Supposedly, this should be changed every change of shock absorbers
How to check if it is good / bad?
Is pressing and crushing can help in this case?
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I dont think the rubber boot bit will really make that much difference. Might stop it bottoming out.
It sounds like your dampers are dead. I re-used the volvo foam rubber bits which look similar to the ones in the picture. I think they are more of a 'bump-stop' ?
If something was loose enough to cause those symptoms you would probably hear clunking noises also.
I vote change the shocks. Standard shocks are fairly cheap and easy to change if you have a jack and spring compressors.
Paul
It sounds like your dampers are dead. I re-used the volvo foam rubber bits which look similar to the ones in the picture. I think they are more of a 'bump-stop' ?
If something was loose enough to cause those symptoms you would probably hear clunking noises also.
I vote change the shocks. Standard shocks are fairly cheap and easy to change if you have a jack and spring compressors.
Paul
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ball joints
I suspect the track rods or steering rods
(are these called like this ? I am not sure)
I mean the ball joints at the end of the steering rack left and right, and also the ball joints that join the hub with the wishbones.
You can also check the stabilizer rod, has also a ball joint on each side.
Hope you know what I mean, in short you have two ball joints on your right side and 2 on your left side that can cause this behaviour.
And the stabilizer rods also.
greetz
(are these called like this ? I am not sure)
I mean the ball joints at the end of the steering rack left and right, and also the ball joints that join the hub with the wishbones.
You can also check the stabilizer rod, has also a ball joint on each side.
Hope you know what I mean, in short you have two ball joints on your right side and 2 on your left side that can cause this behaviour.
And the stabilizer rods also.
greetz
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Hausser front and rear bumper, Black Diamond sport clutch, lightened flywheel, flowed head.Audi TT recirc.Stainless Cat replacement, K&N airfilter,Magnecor KV85,NGK colder plugs.
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It's hard to drive more than 70 mph because car start swaying like ship on the sea or car on the wind
I suspect dampers are indeed near to dead. And tracking is a little bit bad, because outer edge of the tire is worn tighter.
I must change dampers, and dampers bearings. Probably this will help.
...If don't..... i will be
I suspect dampers are indeed near to dead. And tracking is a little bit bad, because outer edge of the tire is worn tighter.
I must change dampers, and dampers bearings. Probably this will help.
...If don't..... i will be
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dampers
Well, you can easily check the things I wrote about.
If it aint these things you can change your dampers I think, It's all about deleting possibilities.
greetz
If it aint these things you can change your dampers I think, It's all about deleting possibilities.
greetz
Flamered GT-Turbo 09-1995, Yellow Koni's, Intrax springs,Palm Beach,rear speakers,middle arm rest,Roboumod,Vega's, CT 906 radio/cd with 850 R amplifier, Pioneer speakers allround.
Hausser front and rear bumper, Black Diamond sport clutch, lightened flywheel, flowed head.Audi TT recirc.Stainless Cat replacement, K&N airfilter,Magnecor KV85,NGK colder plugs.
Soon ; Audi/VW calippers, 280mm Renault Sport brake discs and Ferodo DS2500 pads.
New project : 1987 Silver 480 with B18E engine
Hausser front and rear bumper, Black Diamond sport clutch, lightened flywheel, flowed head.Audi TT recirc.Stainless Cat replacement, K&N airfilter,Magnecor KV85,NGK colder plugs.
Soon ; Audi/VW calippers, 280mm Renault Sport brake discs and Ferodo DS2500 pads.
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And, forgot about these : how are your bushes in the wishbones ?
greetz
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Flamered GT-Turbo 09-1995, Yellow Koni's, Intrax springs,Palm Beach,rear speakers,middle arm rest,Roboumod,Vega's, CT 906 radio/cd with 850 R amplifier, Pioneer speakers allround.
Hausser front and rear bumper, Black Diamond sport clutch, lightened flywheel, flowed head.Audi TT recirc.Stainless Cat replacement, K&N airfilter,Magnecor KV85,NGK colder plugs.
Soon ; Audi/VW calippers, 280mm Renault Sport brake discs and Ferodo DS2500 pads.
New project : 1987 Silver 480 with B18E engine
Hausser front and rear bumper, Black Diamond sport clutch, lightened flywheel, flowed head.Audi TT recirc.Stainless Cat replacement, K&N airfilter,Magnecor KV85,NGK colder plugs.
Soon ; Audi/VW calippers, 280mm Renault Sport brake discs and Ferodo DS2500 pads.
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Yesterday I installed centering ring between rim and hub.
Few months ago I bought used wheels for the winter. - seller told that he used them in Volvo 460. It turned out, that the rims are from Opel (Vauxhall) Astra, so the center hole is bigger.
Handling is much better
Few months ago I bought used wheels for the winter. - seller told that he used them in Volvo 460. It turned out, that the rims are from Opel (Vauxhall) Astra, so the center hole is bigger.
Handling is much better
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yet another badly fitted wheel problem.
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yet another badly fitted wheel problem. slashes wrists and lays down.