any ideas changing over driveshaft

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any ideas changing over driveshaft

Post by glasgowjim » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:10 pm

Well the day started badly then went tits up and finally mega pear shaped :cryhard: :angry: :cryhard: :angry: :badmood: :badmood: :badmood:

front ball joint badly needed to be replaced so in a bad mood started , brain in neutral and went at it on full retard mode . A recipe for disaster I was asking for it and by god I got it in spades :badmood: :badmood: :badmood:

loosened and removed the botm 2 screws the top nut on stub axle carrier was very tight so ho hum poured on he muscle had tken some strain off by jacking the stub axle up a bit and damn me the jack slipped the hub slid forward and popped the fecking driveshaft gaiter into 2 pieces. Yes it was the nearside driveshaft so here went the bloody oil all over he garage floor. Fecking magic! Not the situation is must remove he stub aXLE TO GET HE BLOODY BALL JOINT OFF opps sorry shouting again :angry:

the suspension bolts are seized solid and for a couple of bonus points so are the brake caliper bolts . I am going demented so if anyone has any solutions short of torching he car let me know as I am going demented here . barstwarding car!

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Post by pol » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:43 pm

Jim if I were you I'd call Volvo and order some new nuts and bolts for the strut. Maybe for the stub axle for good measure, and angle grind the old ones off.

Save yourself the stress. I've had to do that once.

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Post by glasgowjim » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:22 pm

how do you get the caliper bolts out without destroying the caliper? :eek:

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Post by Ben Harris » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:49 pm

Just to add possibly more misery, if the nearside driveshaft has come out, you might find the 'spider bearing' (not sure of it's official name) that the driveshaft slots into, has also 'come apart'. This happened with my 480 when I fitted my lowering springs, resulting in the driveshaft not going back in centrally, and me having to replace the bearing.

Hope that hasn't happened!

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Post by Ben Harris » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:50 pm

pol wrote:Jim if I were you I'd call Volvo and order some new nuts and bolts for the strut. Maybe for the stub axle for good measure, and angle grind the old ones off.

Save yourself the stress. I've had to do that once.

Pol
Same here - good old angle grinders! I think I just replaced the nuts and bolts with standard ones (probably high tensile), from my local tools/metalwork shop. Volvo wanted some silly price for the official nuts and bolts if I remember rightly!
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Post by pol » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:46 am

You shouldn't need to remove the caliper to change the driveshaft.

I suggest grinding off the stub axle > suspension strut bolts. This will be easy and is quite a satisfying fix! The sides of the stub axle are machined flat. Its fairly obvious to see when the bolt has had enough grinding.

Not sure what's wrong with your caliper bolts but if you have to remove them, make sure you use a decent (6 sided) socket and a long extension bar. Do not use normal star shaped sockets or you will round them off. Even if they are a bit rounded, the flat sided socket may still get it. Use a bit of heat also.

The volvo original nuts and bolts are very strong and the nuts are locking as they are slightly squashed. The nearest replacements I could find from hardware places are nyloc and all very soft. I'd get the volvo ones unless you know of a good place to get toughened nuts and bolts from...

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Post by glasgowjim » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:50 am

guess is all go now just going out to get a small grinder mines is way too big :lol:

pol have posted on your dor thread :D

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Post by pol » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:59 pm

Cheers Jim, and i've replied!

Good luck with the grinding!

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Post by ted clutch » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:02 pm

jim i am understanding you are trying to get the lower ball joint nut off just below the drive shaft.i replaced mine a few months ago and couldnt remember how i got them off last time.i tried using an open ended spanner (halfords proffesional range) as they are so close to the drive-shaft couldnt get the ring end in.the open end just kept slipping. i then took an angle grinder and thinned out the ring spanner end in a curved shape so it was thin enough to go over the threads.it came undone easily then,nowhere near as tight as it felt with the open end. for the rest of the bolts a long tube over the open end of a ring spanner got them off soft as butter. better to use a tube with a ring spanner rather than a ratchet because it is more inline and doesnt try to twist itself off the bolt head.

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Post by glasgowjim » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:49 pm

Ha Ha did it :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

meesa happy bunny.

tidied up and had tea at 10 to twelve. :D

Thanks Pol everything went well.

Now to sort out the ruff running tomorrow. Rock n roll good buddies ;)

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Post by DaKyy » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:15 am

I had a similar problem once. Only I angle grinded both sides of the lower ball joint off. Then try to figure out how to tap the pin out when the driveshaft is on top and that is the side you have to tap it out... :D
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Post by glasgowjim » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:02 am

Dont you just love hese little cars :D

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Post by pol » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:21 am

Glad to hear it!

Didi you need to grind them off then?

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Post by pol » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:21 am

Dont you just love hese little cars Very Happy
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Post by glasgowjim » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:52 pm

yes ground the buggers off and sorted out the rough running as well just have to adjust handbrake :D

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Post by carl » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:36 pm

DaKyy wrote:I had a similar problem once. Only I angle grinded both sides of the lower ball joint off. Then try to figure out how to tap the pin out when the driveshaft is on top and that is the side you have to tap it out... :D
we did this yesterday with a 30 ton press, haven taken the hub completely off an grinded the old wish bone ball joint part off then pressed out the tappered pin.
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Re: any ideas changing over driveshaft

Post by spree » Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:59 pm

Oh god.....


My near side drive shaft is ticking when I turn left so I need to swap it with the one off the car that I am breaking.

My car is an auto and the other one's a manual. Will it fit?

Any advice for me! By reading this thread I'm now scared!

I don't have an angle grinder..... :-(

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Re: any ideas changing over driveshaft

Post by glasgowjim » Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:21 pm

I dont think it will fit. there have been a number of posts about this but cant remember where/when.

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Re: any ideas changing over driveshaft

Post by spree » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:36 pm

glasgowjim wrote:I dont think it will fit. there have been a number of posts about this but cant remember where/when.
ah never mind.....

Well I need one then...Do you have one Jim?

Or if it is just the outer bearing that needs changing then this should do right?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRIVESHAFT-CV ... 1767wt_956


But then I would also need new cv boot, hub nut and a couple of other nuts that are just meant to be used once right?

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Re: any ideas changing over driveshaft

Post by glasgowjim » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:36 am

At hard lock in one particular direction you hear a clear knocking sound the cv joint/bearing is gone.

Yes you will need the special use once bolts , cv boot oh and spring compressors.

I dont have any spares driveshafts left :cry: for sale.

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