clutch pedal/cable linkage bit, have i put it on wrong?

milos480turby · Post by **milos480turby** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:39 pm

heya, well, my clutch pedal/cable linkage bolt snapped! right when i was on the motorway in the middle of roadworks where there is nowhere safe to pull over too
i swear, 480s do it to ya on purpose!

anyways, the rac man knew this problem as common, and took out the linkage bit to show me what it was, but thing is, i didnt see what way up or on the pedal it was to put it back (i have bought a replacement bolt).

do i have the linkage at a right angle to the pedal bit it bolts on to, or running up vertical on the top end of the pedal (up in the footwell where you need to be a dwarf to get to).

any help or even a picture of what way it is sposed to look on the end of the clutch pedal would be appreciated
even if its a lookalike of a 5 year olds attempt on MS paint
(no artistic offence intended, i take any help with much appreciation =D )

milos480turby · Post by **milos480turby** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:01 pm

ok, here is an attempt at a psp'ed image of what it looks like side on. the left pic is a close up of what it looks like at the moment, how i have fixed it in place, and the one on the right is an over all view so you can see how it is situated on the clutch pedal.

the red is the cable, and square block that holds the cable in place.
the black shaped bit is the linkage. the white bit in the upper part of the linkage is where the cable and block are fed through the linkage which then get held in place.

when i push the clutch pedal in, it moves smoothly, but it sort of 'jolts' in, rather than smoothly going in all the way. as well as the fact the clutch pedal is now waay higher, and closer to my foot than it used to be

*begs for help*

esta · Post by **esta** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:40 pm

I dont want to worry you, but when my clutch pedal did that sort of thing, it got to the point that i was struggling to get 1st, then 1st and 2nd, and so on until i couldnt engage any gear at all!

And this is what met my eyes when i took the bell housing off:
Ashen clutch and ball bearings everywhere!!

And the bearings had been nibbling at the pressure plate:

milos480turby · Post by **milos480turby** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:56 pm

dont worry, you havnt worried me at all, youve just scared the shit outta me! is that sort of thing possible, if, when, your clutch linkage suddenly goes, and your clutch cable shoots back as far as it can go with the metal thing still attached to the end of the cable?

as for the linkage and putting it back on properly, i have taken it back out and had a look, and the way i have it showed above, from what i can tell, is definitely incorrect, but i just cant actually see or find any other way it should go. there are now cut marks in the metal linkage where it was put on wrong (is how i know it was put on wrong coz they wernt there before) but im at a total loss

as it stands now, i may be having a black 480T for breaking if i cant get it sorted as its just problem after problem after problem, and i cant carry on like this as i need a reliable vehicle for my job

ill post screenies of the actual pedal and how i had it in a few mins when i get the stuff from out my car after my food

*edit* oh, and imagine standing on a tin can to try and squish it, you know how it will hold out for a few secs before it gives way to total flatness, well, thats pretty much what my clutch pedal done in the way i had it put back together. you would have to press it firmly and hard then it would suddenly give way and go all the way down.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:28 pm

In your psp pic of the linkage the part that hold the cable is pointing
straight up... at 12oclock in a clock face...

In the orientation of your pic is should be 90degrees to the right..
eg pointing to 3 oclock...

It's a fiddly job but it is do'able.. promise..

C

milos480turby · Post by **milos480turby** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:31 am

ok, its all done, ty for letting me know how the linkage is supposed to be situated

now i got one more problem

underneath the footwell, under the dash, just behind the fuse box, there is a rubber tube that is now dangling, and this tube creates suction. if im correct, when i put my foot on the accelerator, the suction increases... now, when accelerator and vaccuum is concerned, id tend to think its to do with the brake servo, but, as this pipe is inside the car, i just dont know where it is supposed to be connected to...?

@esta
im not scared shitless anymore =D i just had it on wrong

esta · Post by **esta** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:53 pm

@miles480turby...sorry

Glad you got it sorted tho, i just thought i had better let you know about it as it may save you eating your clutch!!

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:16 pm

milos480turby wrote:underneath the footwell, under the dash, just behind the fuse box, there is a rubber tube that is now dangling, and this tube creates suction. if im correct, when i put my foot on the accelerator, the suction increases... now, when accelerator and vaccuum is concerned, id tend to think its to do with the brake servo, but, as this pipe is inside the car, i just dont know where it is supposed to be connected to...?

I believe you are talking about a shiny black pipe about the thickness
of a McDonalds straw?

Thats the vacuum from yr turbo (which is why vac increases with
throttle) The vac pipe connects to two places inside the car. The Boost
guage and the ECU. You may well find your boost guage isn't zero'ing
when you start the car?

ECU is found behind the centre dash trim on the floor. Remove the strip
of carpet that runs alongside the 'transmissin tunnel' on the drivers side
and you will find the turbo ecu tucked inside a polystyrene holder.

C

milos480turby · Post by **milos480turby** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:51 pm

hmm, i know the shiny tube your on about, but its not that one. the boost gauge centres, and works too.. the rubber tube, is a dull matt black, non shiny, and reaches from say, the furthest right corner under the dash, and will only reach as far left as the brake pedal. it will not reach the centre console/centre of the dash.

from what i can see, the pipe has not split and broke, but only probably come off a connecting port of some sort...

here is a screeny of where the pipe comes to in relation to the acceleration pedal, and the second pic is looking up in the furthest right corner. you can see a triangle of where 3 tubes come out, it is the thickest and rubberiest rubber tube. and you can also see me holding it =)

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:18 pm

Boost guage should drop to zero when you turn the car on... not centre..

But it sounds like you are sure thats not the boost vac...

Confuzing then... Do you have any warning lights on the dash? possibly
a vac feed to a sensor to read brake vac? (clutching at a a straw there)
Which would give you a brake warning?

I'll have a dive into my footwell in the morning see if I can match it up
to your pics....

What year is your turbo? Is it one of the teeves abs cars?

C

milos480turby · Post by **milos480turby** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:05 pm

teeves abs? 0_o its a 1989 G reg, one of the last few just before they changed the clutch type over to the better one.
sry, i described the boost gauge wrong >.<
it starts off on 0 when ignition is off. then when car starts, it goes to -7 iirc with no throttle pushed in. it then increases through to the yellow bar as i accellerate. but this pipe dangles

maybe this vacuum pipe appeared so i can suck the car into a black hole in space which is inside this vacuumed pipe, to get rid of all my car troubles..? XD