a X40 gearbox in a 480?

barlar · Post by **barlar** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:20 pm

I wonder if anyone tried to put a X40 gearbox in a 480? I've heard that the M3P, M5P and M5D will fit directly on the 480. DOes anyone have any ideas on this. Are these ones stronger, have different ratios etc.? Cause if they are infact stronger this could be a good alternative perhaps...?

Cheers,

Lars

Ettore Bugatti · Post by **Ettore Bugatti** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:38 pm

Bump!

M3P is a variant of the renault jb3
the M5p and M5d are based on the JC5
They should fit the 480.

I dont think they are stronger since Volvo replaced them with M56. In fact even the commonail diesels (which are Renault blocks) used a M56 (M56L2)

So the next question is: will the M56 fit on the B18?

shimon340 · Post by **shimon340** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:44 pm

hi there

this is quite interesting

the gear linkage for the 400 manual is the same as an S40 with a renault box. the 2.0 and above ( T4 and 2.0T ) X40s use the volvo M56 box.

The X40 does use some renault boxes.

interesting that the 1.9D ( diesel ) uses a volvo box.

what did renault use then in their cars with the 1.9D?

Ive recently heard from volvo ( HQ source ) that the carisma also shared some renault parts. be interesting to find out what

also, did the laguna use the volvo 2.0 engine from the S40?

so in theory a renault box in a volvo 400 should work - presuming the cases are identical. prob worth checking the volvo ID nos for the boxes and comparing to the renault numbers.

I dont see the M56 fitting easily since it uses a rather different two cable selector set up instead of a single rod as per the renault boxes. however, its might not be impossible

hjkort · Post by **hjkort** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:33 am

The laguna 2.0 is the same as the V40 2.0.

The diesel engine code for the carisma is F8QT, the renault one is F8Q...
The gearboxes on these diesels are almost the same, same goes for the v40 D. And maybe some other parts for the diesel engines.
I guess thats probably all, because the s/v40 uses petrol engines from mitsubishi

Ettore Bugatti · Post by **Ettore Bugatti** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:23 pm

Time for college!

Renault used a JC5 on the F9Q diesel with 105bhp in 2003. Also the JR5 is used.
The more powerfull dCI's (120hp) used ND0 6 speed in the Megane and the PK6 in the Laguna II.

When Volvo bought the 1.9 diesels from Renault the deal was that Renault would use some Volvo petrol engines.

So for the facelifted Safrane, they put the Volvo engines in it.
-The B4204S (renault called it the N7Q) with about 140hp and a VM1(=Volvo M56) gearbox
-The B5254S (aka N7U) with +/- 170 hp with the same VM1 gearbox.

Also the first type Laguna did get the B4204S but with an Renault JC5 gearbox on it. This is the same as the first X40 had. Then N7Q only was in the Laguna RXE/RTI. Other versions used the 8v F3R engine.
When the first laguna was updated Renault replaced the N7Q with the F4R, Which is Renaults own 16v 2l.

Volvo X40 had at first all renault gearboxes (1.6,1.8,2.0,1.9TD), but the T4 always had the M56 gearbox.(Note that the 2.0 and T4 are almost the same block). I guess that 200hp and 300Nm is enough to break a JC5.

Then in 1999 Volvo made some extensive modifications to the X40.
The 2.0l got VVT (B4204S2) and the M56.
From 1999 onwards all engines in the X40 slowly got the M56 gearbox.

Still it remains intresting how Volvo managed to put the M56 on the Renailt diesel. The M56 is quite bullet proof (how many diabolical 850 T5 are on this planet which stock transmission?).
Renault dont use the JC5 (which is the strongest in the JB3/JC5 boxes) with engines pushing out more then 200Nm. That could one reason why the 480 turbo only delivers 120hp/175NM.

shimon340 · Post by **shimon340** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:41 am

fantastic info!!!

that saves me driving the parts guy at my local renault shop mad!!

brilliant!

Shimon

classicswede · Post by **classicswede** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:57 pm

So does that mean a S40 T4 engien would bolt onto a 480 turbo gearbox?

VanDerGraaf · Post by **VanDerGraaf** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:31 am

Well you would think so but I don't know of anyone here who has done this.
Surely the torque from the T4 would kill the M59 box pretty quickly?

Little_tortilia_boy · Post by **Little_tortilia_boy** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:16 pm

question...what kind of gearbox than you use on b18ft engine that produce 200+ hp...or wich is the strongest gearbox renault/volvo that fits b18ft....is it maybe m56 from s40 turbo?...tnx

shimon340 · Post by **shimon340** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:57 pm

hi there

does this mean a 440 turbo gearbox could be fitted to a 440 diesel?

what gearbox types did the 440 turbos come with?
my 440 diesel has a JC5

thanks

shimon

LANTIN · Post by **LANTIN** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:16 am

UP ...

Does anyone have info over the following setup :

M56 gearbox and B4194T/T2 engine (from S/V40 T4) under the hood of a 480 ?
I'm almost certain a 5 cylinder wouldn't fit but how about the 4 cylinder 1.9L 16V turbo from the X40 ?