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Keyz
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No spark

Post by Keyz » Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:49 am

Two 480 with B18E engines with differents ECU. Are the ECU interchangeable? Serial number and version: 436507 with
S101290101D, 411921 with S100803102H ?
ECU 436507 with S101290101d doesn't have spark.

I made tests with multimeter on the two plugs of the coil's computer module.
It has <9.5V on pin A of connector 1 (on the top of coil's computer module, with 3 pins: A, B, C), when cranking. It has good ground between pin B of connector 1.
But it has low voltage between pin B of the connector 2 (on the bottom of computer module) and earth: voltage is between 100 and 150 milivolts, when cranking (voltage should be between 300 and 400 millivolts).
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Keyz
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Re: No spark

Post by Keyz » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:04 pm

Ecu was faulty, I've found an other Renix ecu with same number "S101290101", but different letter "E", at the end, instead of "D", and ignition works now it has good spark.

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Re: No spark

Post by mandi » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:44 pm

Keyz wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:04 pm
Ecu was faulty, I've found an other Renix ecu with same number "S101290101", but different letter "E", at the end, instead of "D", and ignition works now it has good spark.
Hello

Where did you get such an old version renix for B18E ??
I want to have also some as spare …

Thanks
Mandi

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Re: No spark

Post by imke.akkrum » Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:44 pm

Hallo Volvo 480 fans, I also have no idea what or where the spark is. Got a scrapper for now. Because I can't get spark. Fuel pump relay new, fuel pump new. And 10 amps new. The fuel works. But spark gonna. Now no power in relay. Not voltage 0,7. And also bobine 0,7. Must be hyher. Where must I look. Alarm? Or computer?

Keyz
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Re: No spark

Post by Keyz » Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:21 am

Mandi, which is the Renix serial number that you're looking for?
Here's a table listing ECU related to production year:
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Re: No spark

Post by Keyz » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:13 am

imke.akkrum,
What's your engine type?
Does the coil's computer module has power supply (ar least 9.5V) between pin A of plug 1 and ground, with key turned to third position (starter position)?
And does the coil's computer module has continuity between pin B of plug 1 and ground, with key turned to 0 position?

mandi
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Re: No spark

Post by mandi » Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:10 pm

Keyz wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:21 am
Mandi, which is the Renix serial number that you're looking for?
Here's a table listing ECU related to production year:
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hi keyz

my engine is 1986 and B18E
the ECU is the first one in your table: 411921 --> S100803 102

mandi

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Re: No spark

Post by Optimistic » Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:44 pm

if you will need any sensors send me a pm. currently i am disassembling a b18e, the engine is still complete
92' TT-T

Keyz
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Re: No spark

Post by Keyz » Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:37 pm

Hello,
I need the temp sensor? Is it the black one?
I also need an external temperature sensor.
Thanks

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Re: No spark

Post by Keyz » Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:57 pm


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Re: No spark

Post by jamescarruthers » Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:52 pm

There will be no spark without it seeing the engine turning. Have you tried a new crank position sensor? I think with the engine spinning on the starter motor you should see the rev counter move a tiny bit if the sensor if okay.

A B18E absolutely will not start without the MAP sensor either -- it needs the electrical sensor and the manifold vacuuum.
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: No spark

Post by Keyz » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:08 pm

Thanks jamescarruthers,
I found the culprit, it was the ECU not sending the ignition signal to the ignition coil's computer module.
I've found an other one that's sending the ignition signal, it has good sparks now.

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