Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
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Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
Hi all
The speedometer on my 92 Turbo works if (from time to time) I hit the dashboard. However, when it does it does not go over 90MPH (I had to try as I picked up the car only today
This is the first of many questions. My last 480 (sold in 2001) worked perfectly
Thanks in advance for your help and future patience
The speedometer on my 92 Turbo works if (from time to time) I hit the dashboard. However, when it does it does not go over 90MPH (I had to try as I picked up the car only today
This is the first of many questions. My last 480 (sold in 2001) worked perfectly
Thanks in advance for your help and future patience
1993 Turbo auto called Skip for the important stuff
2011 Juke 190 for everything else
2011 Juke 190 for everything else
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Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
The speedo is an electronic pick up so the fact that it works sometimes means you are hopefully lucky and it is a bad conenction. New sensors aren't available although i'm sure you'll get a second hand one should you need it
Brinkie, a member on here, repairs instrument clusters, so you could take yours out and send it in for inspection. He'll be along soon to offer some advice I'm sure.
I'd try to make sure the connectors are on at the back first and STOP hitting the dashboard as they are delicate!
Sorry to be preachy about bashing the dashboard! I also would be careful about driving it hard when your cambelt is way overdue!
Brinkie, a member on here, repairs instrument clusters, so you could take yours out and send it in for inspection. He'll be along soon to offer some advice I'm sure.
I'd try to make sure the connectors are on at the back first and STOP hitting the dashboard as they are delicate!
Sorry to be preachy about bashing the dashboard! I also would be careful about driving it hard when your cambelt is way overdue!
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
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Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
Hi James
It was not bashing, more like heavy proding but yes of course better not desolder something made in 1992
I will have a look at the belt again tomorrow. Even though it has only done 3000 miles in the last 7 years the belt is old and possibly damaged?
The 160 miles drive back went very well though. Aircon is not cold (added to the list) and engine/oil temp was steady all the way
It was not bashing, more like heavy proding but yes of course better not desolder something made in 1992
I will have a look at the belt again tomorrow. Even though it has only done 3000 miles in the last 7 years the belt is old and possibly damaged?
The 160 miles drive back went very well though. Aircon is not cold (added to the list) and engine/oil temp was steady all the way
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Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
Replied on this thread:
http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/forum/v ... 15#p210615
http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/forum/v ... 15#p210615
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
dicky electronics are not unusual, but if you don't want to take the dashboard out, you can lie upside down in foot-well and 'just' get your fingers onto the multi-plug and press in whilst holding the dash with the other hand, obviously not whilst driving . . . .. .frenchfries wrote:Hi James
It was not bashing, more like heavy proding but yes of course better not desolder something made in 1992
if you want to get a better fix
Brinkie? does part ex on speedo/leccy repairs for a fee . . . . .
Alan
480 ES 2litre 'Celebration' ? , C30 1.8ES, SS1
480 ES 2litre 'Celebration' ? , C30 1.8ES, SS1
Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
Or for complete piece of mind, take the dashboard out and send it to Brinkie in the Netherlands and have him cast his wizard like knowledge over it.
Mine has just returned; I knew the dashboard had been swapped out twice previously (receipts in the history) but Robert found out that mine was a pre-1991 model which does not count the miles correctly once connected to a post-1991 gear box. Not only that, the range function was configured for a 45 litre tank (min has a 60 litre) and various bulbs had blown. All of which have now been rectified.
Cannot recommend highly enough!
Mine has just returned; I knew the dashboard had been swapped out twice previously (receipts in the history) but Robert found out that mine was a pre-1991 model which does not count the miles correctly once connected to a post-1991 gear box. Not only that, the range function was configured for a 45 litre tank (min has a 60 litre) and various bulbs had blown. All of which have now been rectified.
Cannot recommend highly enough!
Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
Have to agree with Jifflemon. I opted for the Brinkie magic as well, in fact he has my unit at the moment. Well worth asking him to use his mysterious dark powers on it!
Trevor
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Red 480 ES Auto 1991
Bought 2016, hoping to use a weekend car in 2017
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Bought 2016, hoping to use a weekend car in 2017
First classic car, learning a lot, but having fun
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Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
I will have to try the "upside down" option first just for the fun of it
On a serious note, I did see the Brinkie option and it will be considered. In fact, the volmeter and rev counter black background need fixing, the only analogy would be a water based tattoo that would show the creases of the skin after a day or 2 and the background light shows through. I hope it makes sense
I did not know they did 45 litre tanks for the 480.
On a serious note, I did see the Brinkie option and it will be considered. In fact, the volmeter and rev counter black background need fixing, the only analogy would be a water based tattoo that would show the creases of the skin after a day or 2 and the background light shows through. I hope it makes sense
I did not know they did 45 litre tanks for the 480.
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Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
Yeah, they swapped from 46 (not 45 ) to 60 litre tanks in 1991, with the introduction of the Phase 2 facelift model. Not exactly model year 1991, they started with the Phase 2 model from identification number 567600 onwards. So if you put an okder info centre computer in, it will calculate the range and fuel economy wrong. Or it might even be set for a different ECU (there are settings for B18E, B18F, B18FT and B18EP/FP/B20F) which will, when configured wrong, show no data at all. But the fuel gauge and temperatures will always show correctly, though pre-1991 computers show temperature in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius if the switch in the info centre switch is set to miles.
You could try and fix the board by yourself if you have good soldering skills and proper electronics soldering tools (i.e. 20-30W soldering iron and 60/40 solder with rosin core flux). I can fix it for you, most of the cost is postage, though there is pretty much guarantee it will work afterwards. But if you need a volt meter and a rev counter without the light shining through, I've just got a load of spares from Trevor and I'm happy to pass it on to a good home!
(Trevor, I've cleared the backlog so yours is now in front of the line )
You could try and fix the board by yourself if you have good soldering skills and proper electronics soldering tools (i.e. 20-30W soldering iron and 60/40 solder with rosin core flux). I can fix it for you, most of the cost is postage, though there is pretty much guarantee it will work afterwards. But if you need a volt meter and a rev counter without the light shining through, I've just got a load of spares from Trevor and I'm happy to pass it on to a good home!
(Trevor, I've cleared the backlog so yours is now in front of the line )
Robert.
Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i, 1999 Volvo S70 2.5 Europa, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum
Present cars: 1994 Volvo 480 GT 2.0i, 1999 Volvo S70 2.5 Europa, 2010 Volvo V70 2.0F Momentum
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Re: Speedometer not working or does not go over 90
I am not even sure what size tank I have in fact but I will find out at some stage.brinkie wrote:Yeah, they swapped from 46 (not 45 ) to 60 litre tanks in 1991, with the introduction of the Phase 2 facelift model. Not exactly model year 1991, they started with the Phase 2 model from identification number 567600 onwards. So if you put an okder info centre computer in, it will calculate the range and fuel economy wrong. Or it might even be set for a different ECU (there are settings for B18E, B18F, B18FT and B18EP/FP/B20F) which will, when configured wrong, show no data at all. But the fuel gauge and temperatures will always show correctly, though pre-1991 computers show temperature in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius if the switch in the info centre switch is set to miles.
You could try and fix the board by yourself if you have good soldering skills and proper electronics soldering tools (i.e. 20-30W soldering iron and 60/40 solder with rosin core flux). I can fix it for you, most of the cost is postage, though there is pretty much guarantee it will work afterwards. But if you need a volt meter and a rev counter without the light shining through, I've just got a load of spares from Trevor and I'm happy to pass it on to a good home!
(Trevor, I've cleared the backlog so yours is now in front of the line )
The concept of fixing the board myself is pretty foreign to me, as soon as I have a mo I will assess what is happening in there and send you the odometer if required. I would welcome the rev counter and the voltmeter though, how do we proceed?
1993 Turbo auto called Skip for the important stuff
2011 Juke 190 for everything else
2011 Juke 190 for everything else