Starting problems

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lincoln480
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Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:33 am

My 480 has been a first time starter every time since i had it but today on turning the key after parking up literally 5 minutes before hand,nothing happened.
My son managed to push start me easily enough so i drove it home & parked up.Turned it off,tried again & nothing.
On previous cars,i've tapped the starter motor with a hammer & thats usually done the trick.On the 480 i can't even see where the starter motor is?
Am i right in thinking it's the most likely culprit or should i be looking elsewhere? Can't believe my luck.Looks like on public transport this week.

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Re: Starting problems

Post by doingitsideways » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:15 pm

Hi,

On both my 400s (2.0 480 and 1.8 460) this turned out to be a loose solenoid connection on the starter.

They're to the rear of the engine/bell housing joint, give the cables a little wiggle and make sure they're all connected.

Also worth checking your earths are in good order ;)

Steve :hopping:
"If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical fault!"
Hammers can't fix a 480!!!

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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:52 pm

thanks steve,do you have to get to them from underneath the car?

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AcidicDavey
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Re: Starting problems

Post by AcidicDavey » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:41 pm

If you stand on the passenger side of the car and look behind the engine you should see it, it sits above the gearbox so no need to jack it up.
Poppy sold 2 year ago, sorely missed :(
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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:43 pm

I traced the wires but can't get to the starter motor.I can hear clicking behind the dashboard..i'm guessing that's starter switch/relay?
So it most probably is a connection to the starter or starter itself.
I have to park on the roadside so it's impossible to get it up on ramps on stands.
Going to have to push start it & take it back to dealer.They gave me a 1000 mile or months warranty.I've only done 60 miles lol.
I would of thought not starting was covered?? :badmood:

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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:44 pm

AcidicDavey wrote:If you stand on the passenger side of the car and look behind the engine you should see it, it sits above the gearbox so no need to jack it up.
Thanks davey,is it behind a heat shield?

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Re: Starting problems

Post by AcidicDavey » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:45 pm

Yes as the exhaust is above it.
Poppy sold 2 year ago, sorely missed :(
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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Wed May 01, 2013 10:48 am

I've had no luck with the 480.The dealer i bought it off came yesterday to have a look but they ended up transporting back to the garage.No word from them yet :(

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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Fri May 03, 2013 1:43 pm

Got it back today! It's been a right nightmare.Apparently it was down to an immobiliser fitted to the switch by the heated seat switches.the one with a white circle on? I must of accidently flicked it & armed it.Anyway he has taken the wiring out(his words)He had glovebox out etc & says there are no non volvo wires anywhere now?
My problem is,is now the ABS & SRS lights are on all the time??
Any idea's please.i checked fuse 32 & it was fine.

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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Fri May 03, 2013 2:10 pm

Just found out the blower is not working either! :badmood:

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Re: Starting problems

Post by glasgowjim » Fri May 03, 2013 2:25 pm

abs light and srs light disconnect battery for just over 30 mins then reconnect and take the car for a spin round the block try and get her upto 30mph for a short period . then park up switch off and leave for 5 mins and then see what happens.

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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Fri May 03, 2013 2:27 pm

thanks jim.will give it a go.

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Re: Starting problems

Post by glasgowjim » Fri May 03, 2013 2:42 pm

If this does not solve the problem we will open a new thread specifically on this problem as it is possible they have cut a wire :shock: they shouldnt have even I do that sometimes :nuts:

If so be prepared for a a longish haul it might come down to me stripping the centre console down and photographing wiring then you can compare , photograph yours (wiring that is :lol: ) and so it goes on we might manage to find the fault quickly or not. But find it we will otherwise you are screwed for an mot.

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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Fri May 03, 2013 3:24 pm

Thanks for your help Jim.I tried it but no luck.I'm going to give it another go in case i didn't leave it disconnected long enough first time.
Seems like they must of pulled out or cut wires somewhere.Can't believe they've buggered up the blower too :(
I'm going to have to take it back to them on Tuesday.He did tell me he'd had glovebox out etc so he's messed/missed something.

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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Fri May 03, 2013 7:03 pm

Tried it again Jim but no joy.Garage have said to bring it back in on Tuesday.Seen as they messed it up i'll let them try & sort it first.I'm not very confident with Wiring.
Will let you know what happens.Thanks again for all your help.
Simon.

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Re: Starting problems

Post by lincoln480 » Fri May 10, 2013 4:25 pm

:hopping: Just got the car back.Everything sorted & all i could really get out of them was that it was an earth wire.I guess it got disconnected when they were locating immobiliser wires.

Jim,i've pm'd you a couple of times did you get them? Thanks Simon.

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