Wipers and door mirrors

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Wipers and door mirrors

Post by JohnO » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:49 pm

Hi all,
Was out in the celeb the other day and couldn't get the wipers to work. As everything else seemed fine, I assumed it was the fuse.
Had a wee look today and realised that none of the stalk functions are working, wipers, washers and rear wipers.
Checked fuse 6 as the kid says and fuse 9, I'm think it was. And both fine. Tried new ones anyway, but nothing.
I also noticed that the rear view mirrors are not adjusting also.

Thoughts? Other things to try?


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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by jifflemon » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:57 pm

If nothing on the stalk is working, and there’s not a fuse gone, it could be the stalk itself.

Doesn’t explain the mirrors of course….

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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by JohnO » Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:19 pm

Thank you,
They could be random coincidences.
Having a wee look at the instructions on the cem diagnostic, see if I can work it out.
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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by MisterH » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:05 pm

That is odd, mine played up yesterday only the wipers all went on simultaneously with no stopping them, which means a new CEM is in order, however your problem could be related to the stalks methinks...
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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by dcwalker » Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:50 pm

Without checking I think they must be random coincidence.

Wipers are CEM controlled but it could well be the stalk - I have a spare if you want ind to try. Mirrors...have you disturbed the centre trim round the handbrake?

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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by JohnO » Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:05 pm

Sorry, its been a wee while.
Checked all my fuses and all seemed OK.
I managed to work out a bit of the self test, I had no position 4!
I managed to put it through the full cycle and the both sets of wipers and the washers work , so it must be the stalk, hopefully.

Does anyone have one?

Thanks,
John
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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by dragonflyjewels » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:25 pm

I have a spare stalk you can have, pm me your address and I'll get it sent off
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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by JohnO » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:46 pm

Thank you, it's dc to the rescue ! This time
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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by dcwalker » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:58 pm

Stalk is on its way...

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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by JohnO » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:48 pm

Replacement stalk received, cleaned and fitted - Still nothing.

Had another look at the fuses and both seemed fine.

Took the relays under the bonnet out one by one and cleaned and fitted - just in case. Nothing.

The arthury offered me another CEM - so hopefully we can try that out soon.
Hoping to get the MOT done soon

At least we've not had rain for a wee while!
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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by JohnO » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:56 am

With a little help from Arthuy, he buzzed the relays and we managed to get the wipers AND mirrors going. It looks like the relay k is a bit flaky as they mostly now work. There were also a few brown wires, that looked like they melted a little.

I'm about to look for the relay part numbers, but if anyone knows them, could they let me know.

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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by dcwalker » Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:26 am

JohnO wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:56 am
With a little help from Arthuy, he buzzed the relays and we managed to get the wipers AND mirrors going. It looks like the relay k is a bit flaky as they mostly now work. There were also a few brown wires, that looked like they melted a little.

I'm about to look for the relay part numbers, but if anyone knows them, could they let me know.

Cheers
Good to see progress John, and I have PM'd you...

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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by jifflemon » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:40 am

Brown wires are typically earths.

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Re: Wipers and door mirrors

Post by arthuy » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:30 am

arthuy wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:59 pm
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This diagram is the five pin version showing the difference between the relay pins, but the 4 pins are the same without the centre pin (87a).

Just in case anyone stumbles across this post with the same issue the part numbers for the correct 4 pin relays are below.

Volvo: PN 472210/01
Pearl: PR06
Bosch: 0 332 019 451 / 0 332 014 406
BMW: 61311354393
Halfords: HEF555
siemens: V23134-K52-X249

One of the few parts you can probably get at halfords.

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