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Oil pressure

Post by ebdl » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:23 pm

Just wondering if someone can tell me what my oil pressure gauge should be telling me if everything's hunkydory. I don't believe I have any problems with my car at the moment, I'd just like to know what to look out for so I can use the gauge properly.

At the moment my gauge tends to go straight up to the 70 mark when I start the car from cold. Once it's warmed up it hovers just at the bottom of the white zone at idle and then runs fairly steady just before those three dots when I'm driving around.

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Post by owen080808 » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:57 pm

my understanding was that the worst thing it could display whilst driving would be zero, i.e. your oil pumps packed up - bad news, or at the very least your oil pressure sensor is gone, which is something thats worth having anyway.

sounds like your gauge behaves exactly as mine does. i would expect the increased pressure reading when cold to be due to more viscous oil at lower temps or am i wrong?
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Post by Murf » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:08 pm

if the sensor packs in it will read open circuit all the time and the gauge will go up to max and not move.
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Post by DWalker » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:40 pm

Ed

The way you've described it your gauge sounds fine - mine behaves like that too - idle at the bottom of the white zone, needle sits just touching the top of the printed number "7" @ 3000 rpm.

1000 rpm should be 29psi and 3000 rpm should be about 51psi (on warm engine). Without crediting the gauge with too much accuracy, assuming 70 psi to be the right hand end then the needle on both our gauges is sitting at about the right place!

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Post by ebdl » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:43 pm

Cheers guys, help and advice much appreciated. :D

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Post by martinholmesuk » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:24 pm

What's your oil pressure like on your 480?

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Status when testing

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Oil pressure @ 1000rpm (idle)

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Oil pressure @ 2000rpm

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Oil pressure @ 3000rpm

My oil has been leaking from the sump so it's been off again and (i hope) fixed, I don't think my oil pressure was ever this low so I need you lot to advise.

When cold the oil pressure is 3/4 on the dial but once hot it's just above red @ idle.

Pressure does go up when driving but whenever you stop it's back to nothing almost.

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Post by ebdl » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:32 pm

Mine's the same at idle, not sure about 2000rpm, and at 3000rpm mine's a bit higher, closer to 70psi (IIRC). I'm pretty happy it's all ok from what I've seen here.
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Post by Murf » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:33 pm

what type of oil are you using? if its fully synth and really thin then it could account for the lower pressure.
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Post by robin_xr4i » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:36 am

martinholmesuk wrote:
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Oil pressure @ 1000rpm (idle)
Thats what mine does once warm at idle, when i first saw it i though my engine was knackered but thats how its meant to be. :D
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Post by martinholmesuk » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:45 am

@ Murf,

Magnatech or whatever it's called 10/40 normal shit.
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Post by DWalker » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:01 am

Martin

Mine reads the same at warm idle, but your 2000 and 3000 look a tad low. Mine just touches the "7" at 3000 rpm when hot...

Also using Magnatech 10/40.

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Post by Ben Harris » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:30 pm

Murf wrote:what type of oil are you using? if its fully synth and really thin then it could account for the lower pressure.
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Unless Ed's changed it already, she's got Magnetec 10/40 semi-synth in her. I've only ever run semi-synth in my 480's, as I've been advised that as fully synth is so much thinner, if there were any places that were weak oil seals, the fully synth would almost certainly find it's way out through them, and semi synth would stop this happening as easily.

Basically, as far as the oil pressure guage goes, when it's cold, you should have a lot of oil pressure, all through the rev range. As it warms up, this oil pressure will drop at idle (to inbetween the red and white on the guage), but build up again when you rev it. That was always the case on both my 480's, anyway!

Oh, and that volt and oil pressure guage wasn't fitted as standard, Ed! Oil pressure guages were only fitted to the earlier 480's - it's something I added as an extra (along with the digital clock).

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Oil pressure gauge - location of sender?

Post by ormolu » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:14 am

I have just bought my 4th Volvo 480, a 1995 Celebration model with an oil pressure gauge.

The gauge shoots up to MAX the moment I turn the ignition key on, before starting the engine.

This is either a faulty sender or a broken wire.

Can anybody tell me where the oil pressure sender is located on the engine?
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Re: Oil pressure

Post by brinkie » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:33 am

If you have a normally aspirated engine, and someone stuck a meter gauge set in (which is a one minute job) without exchanging the oil pressure switch for a combined switch/sender unit, then this is the expected behaviour. These are standard on turbo engines, but are lacking on the n/a engines, so there is a wire left open, and thus the meter will show full scale. You will probably also have a turbo pressure gauge stuck at atmospheric pressure ;)
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Re: Oil pressure

Post by ormolu » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:29 am

Thanks for the thought, but the oil pressure gauge and voltmeter were both standard on the 2 litre Celebration model.

I need to find and identify the sender.

A simple oil pressure switch only has a single connector, whereas a gauge sender would be bigger and it would have 2 wires going to it.
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Re: Oil pressure

Post by brinkie » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:38 pm

It's in front of the engine, a bit to the left, with an orange and a yellow wire. This is the schematic diagram:

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