F@~#ed 2.0l Rear Engine Mount.

LASEROWL · Post by **LASEROWL** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:22 pm

Well thats what was left of it.

Thanks to Lee now sorted with one from his parts collection.

Many thx again M8

lee · Post by **lee** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:34 pm

Anytime mate. At the home of mentally distured 480's your car is always looked after

vins480t · Post by **vins480t** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:00 pm

there must be a better solution for it
1 time to hard in reverse and it gone.
the old style was much better but to fitt it is difficult
not a possibility to sorta stabilize it?

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:08 pm

The only solution I could find was to fit the old type engine mount. If there is another solution, then that would be good.

Fitting the old type to the new subframe is hard to do, and makes removing the engine 2 times as hard afterwards

If there is another way, then I'm interested.

Richard

dbsvolvos · Post by **dbsvolvos** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:24 pm

Fit an old subframe !

i havent had old and new side by side , so i couldnt tell ya if what i have planned will work on that score .

vins480t · Post by **vins480t** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:28 pm

As im stripping an 88 ES and a 94 turbo i cud have 'm side by side
i'll post some pics

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:38 pm

I have the beginnings of an idea that involves a bit of M20 studding and a very large bush from a low speed high torque gearbox.

If I had an old subframe at the time, then I would go for that. Unfortunatly my 'J' plate spares car seems to have mostly new type parts.

Richard

vins480t · Post by **vins480t** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:57 pm

there must be a way to sortof deshoch the mount by adding somesort of gasfilled studs or so
well got a new project comming so ill be trying all i can

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:07 pm

There is a quick hack way to beef up mounts. I have seen it done, but it's messy.

That is to wrap strips of cloth soaked in polurathane 'potting compund' resin round the outside of the mounting. It won't look good though.

Richard

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:09 pm

mmm, potting compound

I have a couple of sachets of that in my electronics box (and no I don't mean John Innes number 1

)

That WOULD be messy indeed

vins480t · Post by **vins480t** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:10 pm

it only makes the outerdiameter bigger to cope with the forces better
but it isnt really making the construction more stabilized to
wud there be a chance to fitt 2 smaller mounts

dbsvolvos · Post by **dbsvolvos** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:11 pm

so , is the mounting plate to the gearbox quite a lot different o the early one ?

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:13 pm

I have one, thats been waiting a LONG time now. I have the skills to do it, but...its just so depressing a prospect.

vins480t · Post by **vins480t** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:14 pm

no not that much
it fitts the same bolts on the box
so that plate is interchangable
but the hight of the mounts is different
so is the base on the subframe

dbsvolvos · Post by **dbsvolvos** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:20 pm

id like to make it so it fits both cars , but i doubt that will happen .

vins480t · Post by **vins480t** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:31 pm

the problem is the old one is bolted throug a rubberbox
the new oilfilled mount sits inbetween the box and the subframe
that s where the hight difference comes from

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:35 pm

The old type mount is 20mm shorter than the new type. The mounting area is the same, but the old type has holes in the center line of the subframe, where as the new type are diagonal. The hole centers are the same

Here is a picture of the plate, sorry it's very fuzzy

You can just about make out the two sets of holes. An yes it's a very funny shape, because it has to fit round the power steering rack and pipework.

Richard

dbsvolvos · Post by **dbsvolvos** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:39 pm

yeah , ill have a closer look later in the week .

chelle · Post by **chelle** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:00 am

The only difference with the subframes is between auto and manual.

MANUAL

You have 2 types grey and black.

Grey = Old type (mk1)
Black = New type (mk2)

The only difference between these two is the mounting holes for the rear engine mount. I did have pic side by side before my hard drive went TU.

I have converted to the old type subrame. This is an easy task. If however you do this you must remember to change the bracket on the engine.

I have had the bracket on my mk2 snap. I do believe so has fnord. This can be replace by the new and improved mk3 bracket which has been reinforced.

Well that is my 2 pence worth use it as you wish

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:15 am

wow, Chelle knows her shit.