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Idle Control Valve

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:03 am
by travelman
I have an uneven tickover with the revs surging up and down slightly and stalling ocasionally.When I remove the wire off the end of the idle control valve the tickover reverts to normal,but as soon as it is reconnected the surging starts again.I have cleaned out the valve but it does not make any difference.Is this a likely valve failure or would it be an electrical problem.Have checked carefully for air leaks but nothing is apparent.What happens if the wire is left disconnected-does it cause starting or running problems.
If it does need a valve,what is the difference between a £35 job or a £200 one as they seem to range between these prices on ebay.Anyone recommend a particular brand.

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:16 am
by jamescarruthers
I had an unbranded one on my last car and it did the trick-- it was midrange in price.‎

I think there are two types, the difference being the orientation‎ of the pipes.

You've checked useful stuff there. Would also suggest checking that the throttle position switch is checked. This controls the valve. With the engine off (so you can hear it) and in the engine bay, can you hear the switch click if you slightly open the throttle‎? Check this when cold and again when hot.

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:15 am
by Alan 480
as the revs are changing it does sound as if th control valve IS working /activating so mayb emore likely to be the switch? (ie switch sending or nt sending aasignal to the ECU? )

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:02 pm
by travelman
Thanks James-I have checked the control switch as you advised and the clicks are conspicuous by their absence! Will get another one and give it a try.
It will not hurt to change it anyway as the one on it has never been changed in 27 years.Will get back when I have changed the switch.

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:13 pm
by jamescarruthers
It doesn't necessarily need replaced, it could just need adjusted. ‎

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:11 pm
by travelman
Yes,you were right James,it was the throttle posistion sensor.Got a Bosch one off Ebay and changed it.The old one was full of oil which was probably the problem.Now engine running fine.

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:11 pm
by jamescarruthers
Ah that is good news, well done. It's a good thing these sort of parts are fitted to other engines so we can keep our 480's running well. :D

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:00 pm
by Alan 480
travelman wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:11 pm
Yes,you were right James,it was the throttle posistion sensor.Got a Bosch one off Ebay and changed it.The old one was full of oil which was probably the problem.Now engine running fine.
Mine was similarily full!!!, :shock: I drilled a hole in the bottom to let the oil out!!! :wink:

this is caused by any oil in the air inlet system running down the throttle spindle into the switch

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:48 pm
by travelman
Alan,I have to give you top marks for ingenuity.You always think outside of the box.

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:49 pm
by Alan 480
travelman wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:48 pm
Alan,I have to give you top marks for ingenuity.You always think outside of the box.
just 'ticht',
and I like to think that 'where there is a will, there's a way' , probably coming from a time when internet didn't exist and if you needed a part you had to source it from the dealer (at high price) , local breakers yard (2miles away) or try and see what was wrong, ie a fixer NOT a fitter :D

actually I had a spare switch anyway from a breakers so nothing to lose, so they now BOTH have drain holes :wink:

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:21 am
by Irolllowvo
Hi Alan
I've been having a similar issue, after buying a car with dead turbo oil seals. (Definite oil in intercooler pipework and inlet, since drained and throttle etc cleaned)
I tried a spare tps (not guaranteed to be working) and had the same idle after going though all other tests and possibilities I could think of, earths, icv, temp switch, wiring, crank sensor, ecus etc.
I'm wondering where you drilled the Holeand what size it was? I'd like to try your trick, obviously I wouldn't want to go deep to avoid damage.
Thansk
Ed

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:36 pm
by Alan 480
Irolllowvo wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:21 am
Hi Alan
I've been having a similar issue, after buying a car with dead turbo oil seals. (Definite oil in intercooler pipework and inlet, since drained and throttle etc cleaned)
I tried a spare tps (not guaranteed to be working) and had the same idle after going though all other tests and possibilities I could think of, earths, icv, temp switch, wiring, crank sensor, ecus etc.
I'm wondering where you drilled the Holeand what size it was? I'd like to try your trick, obviously I wouldn't want to go deep to avoid damage.
Thansk
Ed
Ed
you can check the resistance of the TPS at both ends of travel with a multi meter
first off I had a TWO litre (N/A) so at your own risk!!!

I think it was about 1/8" and all the way through to let the oil out :wink:

I'll look for the spare and send a photo (assuming it also has a hole in it!)

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:53 pm
by Alan 480
photos here (maybe) on google drive, as a shared item
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Bosch 0280 122 001
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I reckon I've not done this properly (again)

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:43 am
by jifflemon
Photo's working a treat Alan!

Re: Idle Control Valve

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:08 pm
by Irolllowvo
Sorry I never replied Alan, thankyou for your images.
I managed to rectify the issues, there must have been previous damage to the lambda wiring and a bare wire piggyback earth had been twisted on but was making poor contact, spade connectors later and she was running a treat 👍🏻