Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

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Martin Mc
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Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by Martin Mc » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:54 pm

Hello folks,

Just wondered if anyone could put names / functions to the items (1-4) shown below? Knowing would certainly help make my reading of the Haynes book of confusion somewhat easier! I believe item 1 is a fuel pressure regulator (now that jay-kay-em has put me right!)

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All responses gratefully devoured :)
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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by WhiteWolf » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:22 pm

1: Fuel pressure regulator.

2: Idle control valve..

3: Crankcase breather

4: Air temperature sensor.. Not a 100% on this.. It would make sense though :D
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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by Martin Mc » Thu May 05, 2016 7:18 pm

Ok, here's another thing that is a mystery - any clues about what it is and its function?

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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by dcwalker » Thu May 05, 2016 8:29 pm

It's the auxiliary water pump fitted to the turbo and B18EP & B18FP engines. Runs for a short time after you switch off to keep the coolant circulating and avoid hot spots.

BUT - it looks to me as if someone has by-passed it - the pipes to and from it appear to have been directly connected together and you can see the fittings on the pump with nothing attached.

Volvo deleted this on the 2.0 litre engine so I don't think it's something that you cannot safely live without...but others might know differently!

David
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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by Martin Mc » Thu May 05, 2016 8:47 pm

Thanks David, the disconnected pipes / unused openings had me confused. I remember the auxiliary pump running on from my first ES, but since I've not actually had the current car out on the road yet, I haven't really had a chance to assess the 'normal' running of this car.

Watch this space for more mystery photos! :hopping:

Martin
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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by dcwalker » Thu May 05, 2016 9:24 pm

Yes, my 1992 ES used to drone away happily after a run, making people look and wonder...

Keep the pictures coming - I suspect you will have to work really hard to defeat the assembled experience on here!

By the way, on your previous photo, WhiteWolf wasn't 100% sure, but is totally correct about No 4 being the air intake temperature sensor.

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Previous: Celebration 331 (re-homed with Richard S), Celebration 467 (returned to Martin Mc); Celebration 346 (re-homed with Alan480); Celebration 269 (scrapped abandoned project), Celebration 73 (sold on after 6 years), 1992 ES, 1988 ES - and numerous other non-480 Volvos!

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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by Martin Mc » Thu May 19, 2016 5:52 pm

Here's another mystery part - the 4 pin connector next to the alternator (see below).

Any ideas?

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Cheers!
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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by dcwalker » Thu May 19, 2016 6:59 pm

That looks like the connection to the engine oil level/temperature sender, which is down to the bottom right of the oil filter.

Are you getting an "OK" or "Check" on the info centre when you start up? And do you get an oil temperature reading? If not, that's why...

If you are, then I'll have to think again!

BTW, you sure this isn't a quiz?

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Previous: Celebration 331 (re-homed with Richard S), Celebration 467 (returned to Martin Mc); Celebration 346 (re-homed with Alan480); Celebration 269 (scrapped abandoned project), Celebration 73 (sold on after 6 years), 1992 ES, 1988 ES - and numerous other non-480 Volvos!

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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by Martin Mc » Thu May 19, 2016 8:31 pm

Hello DC,

Thanks for your reply - my car is a 480S, so doesn't have an info centre per se, but the same dash as the 440 / 460 (rev counter, speedo, warning lights) which means I don't have an oil temp gauge or display.

I was kind of hoping it was some type of OBD connector, that I could plug a reader in and become instantly enlightened as to the root cause of the rough running my engine is experiencing... :rofl: I know.. some hope!

I'll find some more things to post in my 'Not a Quiz'.. I'm sure :D
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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by jamescarruthers » Thu May 19, 2016 9:20 pm

Martin, you can read many fault codes on the later cars by counting blinks of the diagnostic box in in engine bay. Nothing to plug in.

Instructions here for the important stuff (engine): http://www.am.torun.pl/~ja/volvo/diagno ... stem.shtml
and here: http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/volvo48 ... flashcodes for CEM III (position 5, missing from the Polish site.

I have never done it myself as I seem to be an early 480 masochist who enjoys the difficult life.

According to this post, http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/forum/v ... =12&t=3548 , you can ignore 4-5-2
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by Martin Mc » Fri May 20, 2016 9:20 am

Hello James,

How brilliant is that!? I've had a quick go using the onboard diagnostics and following our Polish friend's excellent instructions.

The code that comes up on the Fuel System port (2) is 1-2-1, which according to the tables means 'Air pressure sensor: no signal correspondence'.

Now I have recently (this month) changed that part, with no discernable effect on the lumpy idle problem, which suggests it might be something buried in the electrics between the sensor and the ECU. I'll check the wiring over the weekend, and make sure the part is fitted correctly, then disconnect the battery and wait 20 mins before reconnecting everything, and see if the problem persists.

Worst case, the car is booked into the local friendly garage, who understand about old cars and their quirks (the owner races and shows MK1 VW Sciroccos for fun).

Cheers!

Martin

PS What fun to have a new toy / gadget to play with! And what joy to find it works!! :hopping:
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Re: Not a Quiz, But What are These Things?

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri May 20, 2016 10:02 am

You can do a continuity test between the big engine ECU plug and the sensor very easily! If it is open circuit, then there is your problem!

Hopefully, someone will be along to tell you which pins you need to look at on the ECU end.
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)

Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)

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