which engine is better

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which engine is better

Post by your » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:53 pm

tell me which engine is better

1,7 turbo or 2.0 es?

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Re: which engine is better

Post by coyote1980 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:16 pm

I favor the 2-liter engine, nice torque, excellent cruising characteristics, love it.

But then again: the Turbo does have a nice lit up Turbo-pressure-gauge :lol:
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Re: which engine is better

Post by glasgowjim » Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:43 pm

the 2ltr having driven both it is smoother and a better drive

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Re: which engine is better

Post by T850 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:29 pm

The Turbo needs more care. You may only open the throttle after the oil reaches at least 70°C and have to let it cool down after harsh/fast driving before shutting it off to prevent the turbo oil feed from getting clogged with residue.
Plus under the bonnet you have a lot of additional stuff that gets in the way when servicing the beast. I currectly have a Turbo with A/C and ABS MK2 and it is cramped under there - local workshop wants 360€ to change the clutch (just labor) and after seeing what has to be put out of the way I believe them :)
But: If you want power and speed you have to go for the Turbo. With the 2L you will be limited, no matter what others say. The Turbo, being so low-pressure from the start, almost drives like a NA car, but if you beef it up a little it goes like stink.

Costs more though. Fuel, parts, labor, the lot.

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Re: which engine is better

Post by Captain Slow » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:55 am

I like the torque of the 2.0L, plus its power is similar to the turbo and it is simpler. Less to go wrong in a big way is good!

Depends if you want the 'turbo' badge (plus more expensive insurance) and greater ability to tune it up
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Re: which engine is better

Post by bigdickbuster » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:03 am

It depends, which 1.7 you will compare to the 2.o
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Re: which engine is better

Post by your » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:50 pm

how do you mean which??

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Re: which engine is better

Post by Iroll480 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:14 pm

The're are offcourse the turbo B18FT. But also the B18E, B18F, B18PEP/FP. The last ones are non turbo. Those are all 1721cc.
Here you can compare the differences between them. The B20F didn't change much, but the '93 B20F can use oil like an oilboat, better stay away from that one. The later '94&'95 B20F is upgraded, so no more oilconsumption. You can easily spot the difference between them by looking at the oildipstick. The ''bad' B20F has a red oildipstick, while the 'good' B20F has a green oildipstick.
The only reason for prefering a turbo above a B20F is for tuning reasons. If you plan on not tuning always go for the B20F.

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Re: which engine is better

Post by your » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:43 pm

that is 1.7 turbo b18ft -1989
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2.0 es b20f -1993

can you tell me more about tuning?

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Re: which engine is better

Post by Iroll480 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:47 pm

For tuning have a look at the tuning and tweaking board. Lots and lots of info there.

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Re: which engine is better

Post by bigdickbuster » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:37 pm

There is minimum difference between 2.0 and 1.7T in the city. Big difference is over 80 mph on the highway :hopping: :twisted:
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Re: which engine is better

Post by your » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:55 pm

which is better?

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Re: which engine is better

Post by Iroll480 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:25 pm

I'm getting tired of this. Answer is already given more than once! What more info do you want?

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Re: which engine is better

Post by bigdickbuster » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:16 pm

If you look for the engine for- edited out - I advice the Turbo. It suck better :hopping:
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Re: which engine is better

Post by volviz » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:11 am

your wrote:which is better?
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