Newbie with '87 480 ES

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Newbie with '87 480 ES

Post by bigdickbuster » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:50 pm

I'm sorry about my english, i will succesive try to write better
Hello, Half year ago I've purchased from my friend his Volvo 480 ES. Then I
i don't knew that Milosz_480 was previous owner. Now i know :D

The car is amazing and i love it :)

I have a problem with my Volvo. In the tank was few liters of water. Probably this was a reason of Milosz problems with low power of engine.
I remove the water from the tank and fuel pipes. I fix the injectors, because they are stopped after the car stay about one year. I change the spark plugs.

Car have now good acceleration, but between 2000-4000 RPM worked only 3 cylinders. After the 4000 RPM works four. It looks like electrical problems, something don't contact.

What must i check to fix it?

Regards
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1986 480 ES, model year '87, 217 Red - Reliable mate
ex 1990 480 TURBO, model year '90, 231 Red Image This car was a mistake :D
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Post by glasgowjim » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:44 pm

Try the easiest fix first.

Check

1 the distributor cap and rotor .

2 the ignition lead to faulty cylinder

and using an online translator......

Spróbuj naprawić first.
Check

Najprostszym 1 Kopółka i wirnika ,

2 zapłonu prowadzić do wadliwego cylindra
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Post by bigdickbuster » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:20 am

Thanks for the reply. All basic elements of the ignition were checked. They aren't demonstrating faults. It is possible to feel breaks at the ignition as if in the process of the work of an engine one cylinder was detached or connected. This way from 2000 RPM is happening to 4000 RPM. Above this value the car is speeding up as the jet aircraft. Can it be caused by the CEM breakdown?

P.S. Online translators are not so good. They are doing many mistakes, like me :P
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Post by bigdickbuster » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:44 pm

I forgot:

It's B18E engine.
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Post by glasgowjim » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:52 pm

CEM does not control the ignition there is a separate controller for the ignition. I have spares for both 1.7 and 2 litre engines if required.
The cem is in a black plastic box on the left side of the car when you are sitting in it. The ignition controller is in a steel box on the rightside of the car. It will have a seial number on it and you can cross check this against the elctrics spares list I have posted should you need an ignition controller and can not find one.

Z poważaniem

Jim.

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Post by bigdickbuster » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:21 pm

Thanks for the explanation. I will look for it on Sunday and I will turn the report from works :-)

Your translator is better than mine :D
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Post by bigdickbuster » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:01 am

Hello!

Is the wiring diagram of the engine B18EP/FP/FT matches B18E? [ beam from the computer to the engine]

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Post by Ettore Bugatti » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:01 pm

No, but there is a wiring diagram for download in this site, Volvo 480/ downloads.
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Post by bigdickbuster » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:26 pm

Welcome!
In downloads department there is exactly a scheme to B18FT. B18e isn't.
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Post by Ettore Bugatti » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:50 pm

bigdickbuster wrote:Welcome!
In downloads department there is exactly a scheme to B18FT. B18e isn't.
Thank you! :D

Im pretty sure the B18E is in there too (B18E/D B18E/S is similiar)
The B18E has a renix type ECU which controls the fuelling and ignition. The B18FT use bosch stuff LH2.2 and EZK216 (so seperate units for fuel and ignition).
The B18EP/FP also use the renix ECU as the B18E, but the wiring has changed. Since sensors and pin settings of the ECU has been changed.
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Post by bigdickbuster » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:13 am

Perhaps I didn't look exactly. I will check one more time. Is there a way to check mistakes of the computer? B18E probably doesn't have the test connector in the ECU?

After today's tests I think that an injector of fuel is creating problems. Is it possible to check it by ECU?
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Post by Ettore Bugatti » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:41 am

The early ECU's (Fenix 1 and 3.2) are very limited in test functions.

- Are all the spark plugs OK?
- You can perhaps clean the fuel injectors or install new ones (The B18E use the same injectors as a BMW e30 325i, if I remember correctly. It is one of these Bosch part numbers: 0280150126, 0280150740 or 0280150741)
- Perhaps it helps to disconnect the battery for half an hour to reset the ECU?
- Check and clean your earting points (of the electrical circuit)
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Post by bigdickbuster » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:04 am

Spark plugs are new. I erased ECU by excluding the battery. Unfortunately it didn't help. Will some injection slat from V440 with the 1.7 engine fit to my engine? I can buy used. Visually he looks on the same?
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Post by bigdickbuster » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:15 am

I will look for links to auction and I will paste in here so that it is obvious what I am speaking in concrete terms about.
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Post by bigdickbuster » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:22 am

I found it!

I will paste the link in a minute.
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Post by bigdickbuster » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:28 am

Thispite of ten letters I cannot paste the link in :(
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Post by bigdickbuster » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:28 am

it came off :D

http://moto.allegro.pl/item471839019_vo ... ryski.html

And here is a few photographs of the patient:

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EDIT:

You mean BMW 2,5 litres (m20b25) e30 engine?
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Post by bigdickbuster » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:28 pm

My car has two broken injectors. I found injectors to my engine. Unfortunately it has a defect. You can see it on the photography. It is a crack. Whether is it an important thing? Whether I must search new injector?

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Re: Newbie with '87 480 ES

Post by 5781848 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:24 pm

Hi All. Is there any place to download ecu to engine sensors wiring diagrm for B18E engine? I have many wiring diagrams and schemes but no one with B18E. Need help with it.
May be someone know wiring for B18E sensors to Fenix 3A (Fenix 1 / Fenix 3.2) ECU ?
Thank you in advance!

P.S. Volvo 480 1987
ECU - Fenix 3A (Fenix 1 / Fenix 3.2)
Engine - B18E-104
Thank you for your time!
With best regards,
Dennis
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Re: Newbie with '87 480 ES

Post by jamesy12345 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:04 pm

Maybe something here

http://www.volvo-480-europe.org/volvo480/downloads.php
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