ECU AND FLY WHEEL OPTIONS SERIOUS HELP NEEDED PLEASE !

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ECU AND FLY WHEEL OPTIONS SERIOUS HELP NEEDED PLEASE !

Post by B18FT - LOVER » Thu May 07, 2009 6:31 pm

Hi all

I have a 1991 volvo 480 turbo engine which did run a auto gear box, the colour of my ecu stickers are orange...

I am converting it to manual now i have the gear box etc but im looking into buying a fly wheel and clutch off of jim on here but we are a little concerned about what goes with what..

Mine was a auto and runs 2 orange ecu's,

jim's volvo runs 2 maroon colour ecu's

If i buy his fly wheel and clutch will it work ok with my ecu ? i read in a previous topic that there is a difference accross the ecu colours and the maroon could be a 200mm or a 215mm plate, it said the 200mm one will work ok with a orage ecu but the 215mm one wont?

SO if his is a 215mm plate will it be as simple as just buying his ecu's and plugging them into my sockets or is there a difference in the loom it's self aswell...
Sorry if this is a little confussing but im at my wits end now, i dont want to fit the manual set up in and then find out it wont start...

Any advice would be fantastic, Thanks alot..

Rob

Oh and here's a previous topic about it but doesen't really help me out for a 100% answer..

http://volvo480.dragons.org.uk/forum/vi ... heel+teeth

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Post by B18FT - LOVER » Sun May 10, 2009 11:24 am

Any one know any thing about this then please say, i desperatly need help

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Post by B18FT - LOVER » Sun May 10, 2009 5:55 pm

I've trawled through over 200 previous post's and just can't find a answer...

Please please some one help me out of this mess it's driving me insane...

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Post by B18FT - LOVER » Mon May 11, 2009 5:47 pm

^^^^^

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Post by glasgowjim » Mon May 11, 2009 6:07 pm

rob have pmed john turbo about this

oh the ecu colour maroon is officially red

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Post by B18FT - LOVER » Mon May 11, 2009 6:49 pm

Well with any luck some thing comes up pretty soon, im pretty pis*ed off now with all this, i've been bugging the hell outta you for the last week to find out u have a 2 wire sensor and i have a 3 wire sensor...

So going by all the stuff i have trawled through, my orange ecu will run a fly wheel which takes the 200mm clutch..

If you get ur clutch out and measure the pressure plate and it's 200mm then the flywheel should go perfect on mine as mine should run a 200mm clutch..

If this is the case then I'll take the fly wheel and clutch off of you.. And prey it works with my orange ecu setup...

If it measures 215mm then im buggered... :angry: :angry: :angry:

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Post by bkf_uk » Mon May 11, 2009 8:00 pm

A red ecu will work in ANY year!

however
orange should be with orange
purple with purple
and blue with blue.

red ecus where a crossover / remanufactured ecu

Hope this helps however i know nothing about the manual cars, mine is an auto, but was told the inf above by rich in the past.
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Post by B18FT - LOVER » Mon May 11, 2009 8:04 pm

bkf_uk wrote:A red ecu will work in ANY year!

however
orange should be with orange
purple with purple
and blue with blue.

red ecus where a crossover / remanufactured ecu

Hope this helps however i know nothing about the manual cars, mine is an auto, but was told the inf above by rich in the past.
Ok but basicly i was going to buy his fly wheel and sensor and ecu's - both of them same colour red (maroon)..

His flywheel sensor is a 2 pin, mine is a 3 pin

So how will his ecu work if mine has a extra wire to the sensor ? surly it should be a different loom aswell...

All i want is to convert my auto to a manual - just need a fly wheel and clutch to complete - but unsure if i need to change the ecu's aswell - hence how the above come about....

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Post by bkf_uk » Mon May 11, 2009 8:11 pm

Cant say if theres a diffrence between the manual and auto sensors. mines also an auto with 2 wires. i honestly couldnt say! just be paitenet and someone who knows a good bit more will try to help. but my advice, get flywheel ect from a orange ecu'd car.
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Post by B18FT - LOVER » Mon May 11, 2009 8:50 pm

Funny that, mine was a auto with a 3 pin sensor... Good old volvo hey...

Appanartly the red ecu's have 2 possible flywheels, if this one I'm buying is a 200mm plate then it's ok with my orange ecu..
If it's a 215mm then it wont work, i thought about having the ecu's off the car aswell but then discovered this problem of a 2 wire and 3 wire sensor types...

Maybe some one on here will know about this, maybe the 2 and 3 wire options dont matter if i was to use the red ecu's aswell..

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Post by Ettore Bugatti » Tue May 12, 2009 12:09 pm

Perhaps the differences is in the flywheel teeth; 44-2 or 60-1 (renix or bosch)?
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Post by B18FT - LOVER » Tue May 12, 2009 6:11 pm

Ettore Bugatti wrote:Perhaps the differences is in the flywheel teeth; 44-2 or 60-1 (renix or bosch)?
Na apparantly there all the same number of teeth, 60-2 ... Just 5 degree's difference in the tdc cut out markings..

I think im going to take a gamble and buy all these bits from Jim, fit the lot inc both red ecu's and see what happens... Maybe the red ecu's will be ok with my 3 pin sensor as oppossed to Jim's 2 pin arrangement...

I'm sure a red some where that the red ecu fits all.. I dunno im getting so annoyed with this now, i only want a clutch pedal ... lol

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Re: ECU AND FLY WHEEL OPTIONS SERIOUS HELP NEEDED PLEASE !

Post by outlawmorga » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:26 pm

simple as this... the older engines usually running with a black coloured intake manifold will run a different crank sensor which means different wiring loom which means different ecu's. For example i have a 1993 engine with silver inlet with 215mm plate running blue ecu's with a 'two' pin crank sensor... this only allows me to run the later ecu's. Some of the older engines have 3 pins on the crank sensor and will only run 200mm plate with older orange ecu's i don't know where all these other colours go, as in which flywheel size they run all i know is you can only run a later flywheel with a later ecu
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Re: ECU AND FLY WHEEL OPTIONS SERIOUS HELP NEEDED PLEASE !

Post by glasgowjim » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:38 pm

Geez R U a tomb raider :rofl: :lol: :hopping:

look at the date of robs last post,

well he did buy the flywheel and clutch plate and it did work .

so the story had a happy ending after all
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